725,000 public sector jobs face axe, economist warns

robin_banks

tartanterra wrote: »

No idea.
However, the size of the Army is not a decision for your average squaddie; that's a decision for your elected politicians.
Much the same as decisions to deploy to a warzone.

Is it possible that our Forces are relatively large compared to our European neighbours because our politicians like throwing their weight around the world?

May well be, Germany has announced big cuts in it's defence spending.

nicko33

tartanterra wrote: »

that's a decision for your elected politicians. Much the same as decisions to deploy to a warzone.

and there was me thinking it was (the people running) George Bush who had made those decisions

iolanthe07

though I do wonder why we need the biggest landforce in Europe

France's army is bigger than ours, surely?

Old_Slaphead

iolanthe07 wrote: »

though I do wonder why we need the biggest landforce in Europe

France's army is bigger than ours, surely?

But do cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys count?

seraphina

_shel wrote: »

My wage is certinly not over inflated for the work I do, I get paid no overtime despite working it unlike the private sector. Instead I get flexi time so I dont end up working a 50+ hr week for 35hr pay!

WHat makes you think private sector workers get overtime? Certainly in anything above minimum wage these days, the norm certainly is you get the job done no matter how long it takes you, and you're paid your salary. Don't know anyone in the private sector who can claim overtime.

However, in the last civil service research orgnasation I worked in, someone was employed on a part time basis after maternity leave. They frequently worked full time hours and claimed overtime for the difference....

StevieJ

Old_Slaphead wrote: »

But do cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys count?

That is not fair.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Verdun

lostinrates

seraphina wrote: »

WHat makes you think private sector workers get overtime? Certainly in anything above minimum wage these days, the norm certainly is you get the job done no matter how long it takes you, and you're paid your salary. .

DH's good salary is given on the understanding he is ''theirs until retirement''. Weekends, holidays ...nothing is sacrosanct...if he has to work he has to work.

continualdiamond

What a load of utter rubbish some of you had said.

If you do not need me, thats totally fine, take all of us teaching assistants out of my school and see how my school copes....

Oh thats right, it doesn't, it had to close for 2 days a few years ago when we all went on strike, why, because we do a pretty important and damn good job of supporting our teachers in the education of students with special needs.

So lets see in my special needs school that i work at we have 28 teaching assistants to 11 teachers, lets give them the classes on their own then and see how they cope and just let the children fail, cos after all someone said TAs should never of happened, thats okay cos autistic children just hold back everyone else if in a 'normal' class and are just a distraction. :mad:

Why aren't autistic children normal? They're different yes, just like i am from my next door neighbour for christ sake. They deserve as much attention as anyone else in order to help them achieve, what do you want society to do, just ignore them and hope they go away.

Wake up, autism is real and if people with it can cope in a mainstream setting then that is where they should be.

But you can come and have my job if you so wish, would you like a trial of a day, a week of feeding pupils pureed food, hoisting them from home chair - work chair - standing frame, putting splints on, gators on, doing physio programmes, giving medication, changing nappies, dealing with aggressive behaviour, perhaps a trip to hospital cos you've had your eat bitten appeals, having to restrain a pupil or perhaps you'd like a table thrown at you and a window smashed.

Welcome to my school, enjoy your day and enjoy your current wage of £16,000, then enjoy a nice pay cut, cos your job isn't important.

So nice to know im in a really really appreciated job......perhaps i shouldn't of bothered fund raising for my school when fellow colleagues walked 40 miles so the school had more money for the students to do activities.

Geoffo_M

continualdiamond wrote: »

So nice to know im in a really really appreciated job.....

You are really appreciated in your job. But it should bother you that there are thousands of others, not at the sharp end, who are not doing worthwhile jobs - and being paid a lot more than you!

continualdiamond

Geoffo_M wrote: »

You are really appreciated in your job. But it should bother you that there are thousands of others, not at the sharp end, who are not doing worthwhile jobs - and being paid a lot more than you!

Trust me it does, but i cannot do anything about it and i have been labelled by a lot of people on here into the same catergory as those people.

Now i am facing job evaulation and know for a fact that teaching assistants will resign at my school depending on what pay cut they can afford to take and the children will loose fantastic support staff and it will become an area of employment that people will not want to go into or bother studying for.