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You may pay a lot into your public sector pension scheme, but the benefit you get from us - the taxpayer - is far greater than private sector workers get from their contribution.
The only thing 'magic' about public sector pensions is that the public sector has got away with it for so long.
Get ready for anarchy - your pension rights are going to be curtailed whether you like it or not.
It won't happen - Cameron is not stupid enough to want to take on all the public sector unions. He doesn't need to, anyway. If the pay freezes carry on, most civil servants will soon be on minimum wage anyway!0 -
Did you protest with as much passion when private sector pensions were changed from final salary to defined contributions? No, I suspect not. You probably didn't give a damn, did you?
Forget the 'oh it's not fair' !!!!!!!!. It's been happening to the real world private sector people for years. It's just that you guys have been cossetted from it.
Well, now it's your turn.
And as for public sector strikes? Don't make me laugh. I think you're severely underestimating the mood of the country if you think the old days of the people supporting our angels or bobbies striking are still around. They are not. People are increasingly resentful of the inequities which exist - private sector jobs and pensions slashed, while the public sector increases its waste and profligacy.
Strikes? Bring them on.
The country has changed. It's time you did too.
You really do talk total !!!!!!, don't you. I used to work in the private sector and don't mind going back there if I have to, but your psychopathic hatred of the public sector makes you look like a ranting buffoon, nothing more. Do you think I give a !!!!!! what you think? I have news for you mate, I don't! And neither do most people who work in the public sector. You forget that many private sector workers have partners and other close friends and relatives who work in the public sector, so your imagined sharp split between the two is pure fantasy. We are all in the !!!!!! together at the end of the day, regardless of what sector you work in.0 -
What rubbish. When my private sector final-salary pension disappeared & became a defined benefits scheme, the effect was immediate. What we didn't have of course, was a union that would fight to the end on our behalf.
Tough !!!!!! mate! That's life. What the heck has that got to with me, though?0 -
The Government gets to write contract law so unfortunately it would be legal. Immoral but legal.
No. It depends on how the original contract was written and any conditions pertaining to it. The government can't retrospectively change the law to suit its ends - at least not without all sorts of legal challenges that would go on for years and years.0 -
Thanks marklv, I was actually getting quite worried. If I lost my pension we would struggle to pay off our mortgage, which according to some will be well into negative equity. I will be glad when the whole thing is announced properly so we can start dealing with it.0
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It's a shame we weren't "all in it together" when the final salary schemes started closing down in the private sector, or when they decided public sector employees could retire at 60!
Perhaps you should all have joined that union that you mentioned.'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
Some sections of the public sector aren't allowed a union. Police and armed forces I think.0
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Tough !!!!!! mate! That's life. What the heck has that got to with me, though?
You really are a nasty piece of work, arent you? Every post you make is completely self-interested: advocating cuts so long as they don't affect you, protecting what you deem to be your inherent rights.
You have no idea how much the public sector middle management mentality that you typify is despised in the country at large, do you?0 -
It won't happen - Cameron is not stupid enough to want to take on all the public sector unions. He doesn't need to, anyway. If the pay freezes carry on, most civil servants will soon be on minimum wage anyway!
Ahhh, the pay freeze. Woo hoooooo. I'm delighted about that, to be honest, largely because I just got a 7% pay increase and a 15% bonus.
But, then, i help create profit and real jobs. Not public sector costs.0
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