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I am very ignorant and would like to know what we actually benefit from being part of the EU? Also I am a public sector worker and I already pay a large amount into my pension scheme, more than most. I don't earn a huge amount, I would say I am on an ok wage but I know people who do a far less stressful job and get paid far more... I can promise this much, if they got rid of the 'magic' pension schemes there truely would be anarchy in the UK.0
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As far I know public sector pension costs are equivalent to 1.7 % of GDP- that's probably around the 25 billion mark.0
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I am very ignorant and would like to know what we actually benefit from being part of the EU? Also I am a public sector worker and I already pay a large amount into my pension scheme, more than most. I don't earn a huge amount, I would say I am on an ok wage but I know people who do a far less stressful job and get paid far more... I can promise this much, if they got rid of the 'magic' pension schemes there truely would be anarchy in the UK.
You may pay a lot into your public sector pension scheme, but the benefit you get from us - the taxpayer - is far greater than private sector workers get from their contribution.
The only thing 'magic' about public sector pensions is that the public sector has got away with it for so long.
Get ready for anarchy - your pension rights are going to be curtailed whether you like it or not.0 -
Butterfly_Brain wrote: »:wall:Think of the billions we could save if we were not in the EU
I believe the UK's contribution is £68 billion this year alone and is set to rise again next year - I can't see them bailing us out like they did Greece yet we are one of the highest contributors, if not the highest
And how much do we get out from Europe?
How much additional trade do we do with no import tariff barriers to entry?
Where are we in the scale compared to Germany and France?0 -
nomoreboomandbust wrote: »As far I know public sector pension costs are equivalent to 1.7 % of GDP- that's probably around the 25 billion mark.
Current estimates are that accruals are rising at £40bn which is around 2.6% GDP (and more that is being spent on education). The cash payment is around £20-25bn but will steadily rise to the accrual level0 -
But I am a taxpayer too...
truly and without a personal agenda it would be very hard for them to get rid of the pension schemes for the public sector in one big swoop. Way too much to loose, think about all the public sector striking, or even working to rule all at once. The country would go under. Besides it's not fair when you have signed up to a contract to have it pulled out from under you in the middle of your working life. I think it is likely that there will be freezes to pay rises and public sector workers will be expected to pay (even more) contributions to their pensions.0 -
Council housing should not be more than 2 bedrooms. if you can't afford to buy a three bedroom house you can't afford to raise the children.
about time the grasping class realised this. you are not entitled to ANYTHING. thank your lucky stars you are given a home by the charity of others. Plus a spare room to boot. If you want more, get a job and pay for it.
Grasping Scum0 -
But I am a taxpayer too...
truly and without a personal agenda it would be very hard for them to get rid of the pension schemes for the public sector in one big swoop. Way too much to loose, think about all the public sector striking, or even working to rule all at once. The country would go under. Besides it's not fair when you have signed up to a contract to have it pulled out from under you in the middle of your working life. I think it is likely that there will be freezes to pay rises and public sector workers will be expected to pay (even more) contributions to their pensions.
Did you protest with as much passion when private sector pensions were changed from final salary to defined contributions? No, I suspect not. You probably didn't give a damn, did you?
Forget the 'oh it's not fair' !!!!!!!!. It's been happening to the real world private sector people for years. It's just that you guys have been cossetted from it.
Well, now it's your turn.
And as for public sector strikes? Don't make me laugh. I think you're severely underestimating the mood of the country if you think the old days of the people supporting our angels or bobbies striking are still around. They are not. People are increasingly resentful of the inequities which exist - private sector jobs and pensions slashed, while the public sector increases its waste and profligacy.
Strikes? Bring them on.
The country has changed. It's time you did too.0 -
I hear your pain regarding private sector pensions bendix. It doesn't make it any more fair this time does it??
If the whole public sector decided to take simultaneous action the country would be held to ransom whether or no the private sector supported it or not...
Oh and independent studies have assessed how much it would cost if you had to pay public sector workers private sector wages and I would be a great deal better off for one. I think the days of people doing any job out of a 'vocation' are over. If you want real world thinking then you have to factor in how much you would have to pay someone to get shot at, spat at, threatened, abused, risk their lives daily etc and then see how cosseted the public sector is.0 -
I hear your pain regarding private sector pensions bendix. It doesn't make it any more fair this time does it??
If the whole public sector decided to take simultaneous action the country would be held to ransom whether or no the private sector supported it or not...
Oh and independent studies have assessed how much it would cost if you had to pay public sector workers private sector wages and I would be a great deal better off for one. I think the days of people doing any job out of a 'vocation' are over. If you want real world thinking then you have to factor in how much you would have to pay someone to get shot at, spat at, threatened, abused, risk their lives daily etc and then see how cosseted the public sector is.
Just think, when average houses are back to £80k, a 20% pay cut won't feel so bad, will it?0
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