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Housing benefit rise inline with rent rise?
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Oldernotwiser wrote: »Providing for your children is not a class issue; it's what all responsible people do.
You very poorly use the word 'class' in favour of 'those with spare cash'.All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »I think the middle classes may change their minds about the working classes breeding habits, when they had to clean their own toilets, and offices, and empty their own bins, never mind make their own lunches!!
Oh, it cuts MUCH deeper than that. It's only thanks to poorly paid, often part time employment that so many of the things the middle classes enjoy are so cheap. If they weren't, maybe kids would be out of their reach too!
Of course, the true irony is that much of this low paid work is subsidised by the tax credit system. So, it follows, that its the middle classes who can have their children because of the benefits system, not the poor.0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »how do you feel about say...MP's expenses, illegal/immoral wars/Trident/bank bailouts?
You really are clutching at straws now to try and justify your pathetic logic.
There has been some right morons on this board and I think you rate at the top alongside festering_plates.Be happy, it's the greatest wealth
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welshmoneylover wrote: »Indeed, we are and indeed we can afford our children.
However, the country cannot afford handing out generous benefit payments willy nilly and I for one will welcome Cameron's cuts to benefit payments, especially to those who have kids and expect the state to pay for them instead of the parents working to pay for their own kids.
What? You want to see children starved out of the homes of the poor?0 -
Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »Oh, it cuts MUCH deeper than that. It's only thanks to poorly paid, often part time employment that so many of the things the middle classes enjoy are so cheap. If they weren't, maybe kids would be out of their reach too!
Of course, the true irony is that much of this low paid work is subsidised by the tax credit system. So, it follows, that its the middle classes who can have their children because of the benefits system, not the poor.
Precisely, and these holier-than-thou crowd do not even realise the very system of capitalism that they voluntarily prop up relies upon the unemployed to create a worker-bank in which employers can rely on cheap labour, and keep the unions down, and thus in turn ensuring that wages are low, forcing governments to subsidise incomes or face revolution.All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
welshmoneylover wrote: »You really are clutching at straws now to try and justify your pathetic logic.
There has been some right morons on this board and I think you rate at the top alongside festering_plates.
So you can't actually tell me where you stand on the criminals in our own government, instead prefering to rant about the unemployed?
I see.
:rotfl::rotfl:All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »What? You want to see children starved out of the homes of the poor?
Shocking how far the self-righteous brigade will go. Even child-neglect is not beyond them.All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
I also don't understand this affording children stuff. Do upper/middle class people buy their children?
Nothing to do with class, it has everything to do with taking personal responsability for our own actions...and with that I will bow out of the debate as Its way past my bedtime......:D night all0 -
leveller2911 wrote: »Nothing to do with class, it has everything to do with taking personal responsability for our own actions...and with that I will bow out of the debate as Its way past my bedtime......:D night all
Before you fall asleep. Is a couple on a low income, who can't afford a home or children of their own, on their own low wages "responsible" for the fact that rents and mortgages ar 10x their annual salary?All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »You very poorly use the word 'class' in favour of 'those with spare cash'.
It is very naive to equate class to money. There are many working class families (and people who choose to live on benefits) who have far more money than many middle class families.0
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