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  • Paparika
    Paparika Posts: 2,476 Forumite
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    Well wash your own knickers dear, if the washing hasn't been done for weeks do it yourself.

    I can see what your LAZY mum is doing... she's trying to get you to do things for yourself... It's called growing up and being independent.



    OMG you get to go on holidays..... what are those?
    Life is about give and take, if you can't give why should you take?
  • deb68_2
    deb68_2 Posts: 302 Forumite
    katfishh wrote: »
    I am dissapointed in these spiteful remarks. I want to work flexibly so I can travel, and I'm hardly ever at home as I'm always out so I dont feel I should have to do any housework as I dont make the mess. Shes at work all day but so am I - and she is used to it and i'm not. Incidently she does not travel 3hours each way, its 3 hours total each day. its not that far but the London traffic is bad. Again. not my fault shes tired.

    I never said I didn't appreciate her but I started working when I was 18 part time and she wanted to take some of that off me towards bills and stuff - but I wouldn't. I earned £900 a month and she wanted £35 per week as she says I'm high maintenance!

    I just feel that shes always trying to hijack my money. Now shes really pushing me for it and say I have to either start paying or leave. I've negotiated it down now to £50 pw but still thnk I'm being robbed as I'm never there!!

    Have yet to pay. heh he he :D


    Just move out if all you can do is gripe about your mum,no mention of all years she has looked after you cared for you,as us parents do,you dont no how too do house work is that what you are saying? plug a hoover in how hard is it an push it round the house?polish this may be bit more tricky you have to spray it on to furniture then rub it all over the furniture,the washing goes in the machine you put powder in the draw then select the cycle you wish to use then press the button, my 13 year old son can do this
    come on you really cant be this naive,
    if you cant take it no more then im sure your your mum as cant either,
    why not sit down with your mum go through all the bills,morgage/rent what ever it is,the water,electric,gas,heating,food,council tax,phone bill,sky if you have it,tv license and try to come to a mutal agrrement
    It's an honour having such a lovely family and being welsh, what more could a girl want :rotfl:
  • bigmomma051204
    bigmomma051204 Posts: 1,776 Forumite
    LOL - i have been in hysterics reading this whole thread! Sure this must be a wind-up although it is true there are some selfish little toe-rags out there!

    Op - I may have missed this (apologies if i have!) but how much do you earn??? Per month, Pro Rata .... whatever?! Just out of interest......its just that i noticed you mentioned that you earned £900 per month when working aged 18 for part time ....?!?!? Thats almost as much as i earn for full time now (and i am not 18 suffice to say lol!)

    Itd just be interesting to see how much of a percentage of your monthly wage would be given up to your mum......?? :confused:

    xxxx
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  • Doom_and_Gloom
    Doom_and_Gloom Posts: 4,750 Forumite
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    pboae wrote: »
    Most gas and electric services have a standing charge which is levied whether you use them or not, with an additional charge for usage on top of that. There are some tariffs without standing charges but it's not that common, and the unit price is increased to cover it. Most people still pay for water via water rates, which is calculated over the year, and not based on actual usage at all. Even if you have a water meter the standing charge is a large proportion of the bill.
    Ah ok you see when I was living with the 4 other people we were on a use and charge basis. Worked well for us as it worked out to around £10 each per month which considering there was 5 people isn't too sad.
    Yeah I think my parents water rate is around £600 per year.
    Water alone is £50 per month. It’s £30 for our internet/phone/sky package so that’s £80. CT is around £137 per month so that’s £217. Mortgage is £1400 (I think) so now we are up to £1637 and that is without gas, electricity, food etc :eek: . Hrm I think I could do more around the house personally as I’m actually unable to give my parents much more money as my fiancé and I need to save for our wedding and to get a house and although this isn’t going to be for at least two years I do not want to be in debt for my wedding and need a decent deposit for a house as things are going. My parents as I said just about break even with us here so they are happy.

    katfishh - I really do not understand how you can be so harsh to your own mother. The thing I do not understand is how you say she home all day but works and it takes her a 3 hour round trip for work and home :confused: . Well obviously if she works you can not expect her to clean up after you as you are an ADULT. Even if she was home all day you shouldn’t expect her to do everything because you are an ADULT. You earn a lot of money by the sounds of it, more than the £600 I initially thought that’s for sure. Yes you most likely have transportation costs but as I said if you had your own place you would have to pay your rent/mortgage every month without fail. It is not a difficult concept to grasp. You live and you have to pay your own way as an adult. You are getting an incredibly good deal as it sounds as though you use your mother as a personal assistant. I think if you didn’t use your ma as a personal assistant your keep would not be so high!
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  • Hi all,

    Here is a sticky one for you, how much digs, board, lodgings whatever you call it should we charge our daughter who has just started her first full time job ?. It's such a difficult issue to deal with I would be interested in any feedback similar parents may have in how they have come to an amount thats fair all round ?????
  • Titch89
    Titch89 Posts: 712 Forumite
    - Look at how much she earns
    - Looks at what stuff and how much she uses (ie, does she use a lot of electric?)
    - Does she do her own washing, tea, etc
    - Does she help around the house?

    Just a few things to look at.
  • Lillibet_2
    Lillibet_2 Posts: 3,364 Forumite
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    The rule of thumb most posters on here seem to go with is 1/3 of take home pay.
    The idea is
    1/3 housekeeping
    1/3 savings
    1/3 to spend.

    By the way, I would never ever dream of calling it board or digs, it is your childs home, where they were raised & are loved, not somewhere they treat like a temporary hostel! (I hope). If you call it "board" (or worse) then I think you are discouraging them from having any respect for your home or rules. Sorry, I know you didn't ask for this & I may be stepping over the cyber line, but I just had to say something.

    Godo luck, whatever you decide.;)
    Post Natal Depression is the worst part of giving birth:p

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  • tigtag02
    tigtag02 Posts: 6,857 Forumite
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    Lillibet wrote: »
    The rule of thumb most posters on here seem to go with is 1/3 of take home pay.
    The idea is
    1/3 housekeeping
    1/3 savings
    1/3 to spend.

    By the way, I would never ever dream of calling it board or digs, it is your childs home, where they were raised & are loved, not somewhere they treat like a temporary hostel! (I hope). If you call it "board" (or worse) then I think you are discouraging them from ahving any respect for your home or rules. Sorry, I know you didn't ask for this & I may be strepping over the cyber line, but I just had to say something.

    Godo luck, whatever you decide.;)

    so what would you call it?
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  • Lillibet_2
    Lillibet_2 Posts: 3,364 Forumite
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    Erm.....the clue's in my post....the bit where I said "1/3 housekeeping";)
    Post Natal Depression is the worst part of giving birth:p

    In England we have Mothering Sunday & Father Christmas, Mothers day & Santa Clause are American merchandising tricks:mad: Demonstrate pride in your heirtage by getting it right please people!
  • whitewing
    whitewing Posts: 11,852 Forumite
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    We are 'charging' our mother in law approx £20 a week below the going rate (from local adverts in the area). She also uses our car to get to work and back (dropping off DS on enroute) so we don't charge extra for fuel, car tax, or anything.

    Can't remember what the tax-free limit for rentaroom is but you may want to check that out.

    I also expect frugality eg lights etc turned off.

    DS is not old enough yet to have a job but I do intend to do the same when he is old enough. However, with MIL I find it really embarrassing to charge her (she doesn't mind) and I hate sorting it out each month.

    Also set expectations for 'charging' when they are on holiday/away from home.

    The other thing with MIL is that we charged her in arrears once she'd got her first wages. This means that in theory when she moves out, she will have to find a month's for us, a month's deposit and a month's in advance. Not ideal on a low salary. So personally, I would get DD to be paying 'in advance'.

    There are other threads on this board with other good comments so worth a read of them.
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