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Can my landlord do this? please help!

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  • franklee wrote: »
    Are you always this stupid or are you just making a special effort today?

    I think it was a fair question.
  • SinkingFast
    SinkingFast Posts: 81 Forumite
    Wee Willy Harris, I have to agree with you on your point and your subsequent posts about trying to get a straight forward answer.

    But then I would have an interest as my mum who has a flat she rents out recently went round to discover it totally trashed, vandalised and the tenants had done a runner without paying the rent. Her flat is also on the market at the moment.
  • RobertoMoir
    RobertoMoir Posts: 3,458 Forumite
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    I am wondering whether the fact we are on periodic tenancy affects our rights. I am also wondering whether, if/once the landlord serves notice, he will then have the legal right to show people around.

    I would be so grateful for some advice or for the benefit of your experience!

    Thank you

    To further the good advice you've already received about your rights, it is up to you if and when your LL and their agents can access the property for as long as it is your home.

    I always suggest co-operation in any walk of life including this one - it's absolutely your choice but I think working with people is always better in life than working against them.

    However - mutual co-operation is based on mutual respect and understanding of each other's rights and needs. Tell them you appreciate their problem but remind them of your rights at the same time. Any attempt by them to push for access they are not entitled to (as opposed to asking nicely if you mind...) shows they don't respect your rights or needs. At that point I'd personally not give them the time of day.
    If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything
  • Wee Willy Harris, I have to agree with you on your point and your subsequent posts about trying to get a straight forward answer.

    But then I would have an interest as my mum who has a flat she rents out recently went round to discover it totally trashed, vandalised and the tenants had done a runner without paying the rent. Her flat is also on the market at the moment.

    A sorry tale which will, inevitably, make life slightly more difficult for other tenants. With rights come responsibility. Some, however, may perversly feel that it was your mothers fault.
  • franklee
    franklee Posts: 3,867 Forumite
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    edited 20 May 2010 at 11:11PM
    I think it was a fair question.
    The point I'm trying to make is you are mixing up what a tenant thinks about a landlord and the actions a tenant takes. The landlord is only party to the latter.

    So a tenant on a periodic tenancy serves notice and leaves. She may think to herself haha stupid landlord will have no rental income while he sells but provided she doesn't say that to his face there is no reason why it would cause her problems of the kind you write here (because it's reasonable for a tenant to want to leave when a property goes up for sale):
    You know, unnecessarily upsetting the person who a) has some input into your bond being returned, b) could be a reference in the future and c) you might have to rely on if your future plans get delayed by unforseen circs. Just seems a bit stupid to me. Still, I'm sure you know best.

    Same for answering questions the viewers may ask honestly.

    There is no reason for the landlord to get upset or retaliate as the tenant hasn't done anything wrong. It's not as if she wrote she'd laugh in his face is it? Unless of course the landlord is a mind reader, but then any tenant would probably be done for if that was the case.

    In my best English :D
  • franklee wrote: »
    The point I'm trying to make is you are mixing up what a tenant thinks about a landlord and the actions a tenant takes. The landlord is only party to the latter.

    So a tenant on a periodic tenancy serves notice and leaves. She may think to herself haha stupid landlord will have no rental income while he sells but provided she doesn't say that to his face there is no reason why it would cause her problems of the kind you write here (because it's reasonable for a tenant to want to leave when a property goes up for sale):



    Same for answering questions the viewers may ask honestly.

    There is no reason for the landlord to get upset or retaliate as the tenant hasn't done anything wrong. It's not as if she wrote she'd laugh in his face is it? Unless of course the landlord is a mind reader, but then any tenant would probably be done for if that was the case.

    In my best English :D

    I'm no mind reader so I couldn't even guess at what the poster was thinking. Fortunately, I don't have to as she typed it out for us and that's quite clear....

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    On a purely personal note, I would be looking for another place pronto(after notice of course),

    Intent
    so that I could leave the LL with no income while he tries to find a buyer! And there are always the questions that viewers ask, about damp...........


    Perhaps your best English just isn't quite good enough?
  • franklee
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    I'm no mind reader so I couldn't even guess at what the poster was thinking. Fortunately, I don't have to as she typed it out for us and that's quite clear....

    Actions
    On a purely personal note, I would be looking for another place pronto(after notice of course),

    Intent
    so that I could leave the LL with no income while he tries to find a buyer! And there are always the questions that viewers ask, about damp...........


    Perhaps your best English just isn't quite good enough?
    Sorry mate, it's you can't read. My mind reader comment was referring to the point that a poster sharing her intent with us doesn't mean her landlord is party to it.

    As far as her landlord is concerned a tenant has given proper notice and thus there is no need for any of your "You know, unnecessarily upsetting the person who a) has some input into your bond being returned, b) could be a reference in the future and c) you might have to rely on if your future plans get delayed by unforseen circs. Just seems a bit stupid to me. Still, I'm sure you know best." to come into play. Let's turn it round, from her landlord's point of view, he's been given proper notice, there is no reason for him to get upset.

    I trust that's clear enough for you now :rotfl:
  • franklee wrote: »
    Sorry mate, it's you can't read. My mind reader comment was referring to the point that a poster sharing her intent with us doesn't mean her landlord is party to it.

    As far as her landlord is concerned a tenant has given proper notice and thus there is no need for any of your "You know, unnecessarily upsetting the person who a) has some input into your bond being returned, b) could be a reference in the future and c) you might have to rely on if your future plans get delayed by unforseen circs. Just seems a bit stupid to me. Still, I'm sure you know best." to come into play. Let's turn it round, from her landlord's point of view, he's been given proper notice, there is no reason for him to get upset.

    I trust that's clear enough for you now :rotfl:

    Nope, I see it now, a tenant leaving a property "pronto", not because it's the best thing for her to do (rushing into re-housing is seldom wise) but so that she can "leave the LL with no income while he tries to find a buyer!" clearly couldn't be seen as cutting ones nose off to spite ones face and must, therefore, be seen as the mature and sensible actions of a woman who at all times has the best interests of herself and her family at the forfront of her mind. You know that's cobblers. I know that's cobblers.
  • Eton_Rifle
    Eton_Rifle Posts: 372 Forumite
    On a purely personal note, I would be looking for another place pronto(after notice of course), so that I could leave the LL with no income while he tries to find a buyer! And there are always the questions that viewers ask, about damp...........

    What an awful thing to say. People must be falling over themselves to be friends with you.
  • franklee
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    Nope, I see it now, a tenant leaving a property "pronto", not because it's the best thing for her to do (rushing into re-housing is seldom wise) but so that she can "leave the LL with no income while he tries to find a buyer!" clearly couldn't be seen as cutting ones nose off to spite ones face and must, therefore, be seen as the mature and sensible actions of a woman who at all times has the best interests of herself and her family at the forfront of her mind. You know that's cobblers. I know that's cobblers.

    Sorry but I see nowt wrong with "On a purely personal note, I would be looking for another place pronto"

    I do agree that rushing into the next accommodation is a bad idea which is exactly why I'd start looking (not leaving ;) ) the second I heard my current landlord was selling and then as soon as I found somewhere good I'd hand in notice and move on my terms. Waiting around to be served notice would cut down this flexibility. It should be fairly obvious to any landlord selling that a tenant may go quickly and that they may be without rental income while selling, the upside of which is they have access for viewings.
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