Can my landlord do this? please help!

pinkshoes

Vicster, you should try negotiating with the landlord to make this worth your while!

Send him a recorded delivery letter stating that your legal right is to quiet enjoyment of the property, therefore you are aware that you do not have to permit viewings and visits from the estate agent or any buyers.

Say that if he is willing to reduce your rent by £100 per calendar month (or whatever), you will be willing to allow the EA to show tenants round on Tuesdays (10am - 12pm), Thursdays (6.30pm - 8pm) and Saturdays (10am - 11am), and will make sure the property is clean and tidy when anyone is visiting.

It's worth a try, and if he says no, then he'll have to give you 2 months notice to move out.

franklee

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

I asked, what purpose of the tenants would be served by pointing out "problems" and being a fully paid up member of the awkward squad to spite the landlord?

Oh you meant this bit of the post And there are always the questions that viewers ask, about damp........... I can't see there's anything wrong with a tenant answering questions viewers ask honestly

Wee_Willy_Harris

franklee wrote: »

Oh you meant this bit of the post And there are always the questions that viewers ask, about damp........... I can't see there's anything wrong with a tenant answering questions viewers ask honestly

OK, I can see you're struggling here, perhaps I'm going too fast for you? OK, let me see if I can make it really simple so that you understand.

I was replying to the poster who said....

Originally Posted by eileenfromplaistow
On a purely personal note, I would be looking for another place pronto(after notice of course), so that I could leave the LL with no income while he tries to find a buyer! And there are always the questions that viewers ask, about damp...........

Clearly, her stated intention is to cause the landlord as much inconvenience as possible. I was just asking what useful purpose that served her. You know, unnecessarily upsetting the person who a) has some input into your bond being returned, b) could be a reference in the future and c) you might have to rely on if your future plans get delayed by unforseen circs. Just seems a bit stupid to me. Still, I'm sure you know best.

franklee

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

OK, I can see you're struggling here, perhaps I'm going too fast for you? OK, let me see if I can make it really simple so that you understand.

I was replying to the poster who said....

Originally Posted by eileenfromplaistow
On a purely personal note, I would be looking for another place pronto(after notice of course), so that I could leave the LL with no income while he tries to find a buyer! And there are always the questions that viewers ask, about damp...........

Clearly, her stated intention is to cause the landlord as much inconvenience as possible. I was just asking what useful purpose that served her. You know, unnecessarily upsetting the person who a) has some input into your bond being returned, b) could be a reference in the future and c) you might have to rely on if your future plans get delayed by unforseen circs. Just seems a bit stupid to me. Still, I'm sure you know best.

I think you are over reacting. It's perfectly natural for a tenant to want to move as soon as he hears the property is going up for sale and reasonable in the light of the disruption caused to have no sympathy the landlord loses the rental income.

As I posted before moving serves the useful purpose of the tenant taking control of when they move for themselves instead of sitting abound hassled by viewings and with the uncertainty of when they will have to move. Note the person you quote made clear they'd serve notice so they'd have done nothing that would warrant deductions fron the bond.

A landlord can't expect to get rent in and access for viewings whilst the property is up for sale much as many would like to have that cake and eat it. A tenant fed up of an estate agent's arrogance in arranging viewings of the kind the OP describes may well feel the LL gets his just deserts of a tenant leaving and thus no income while he tries to find a buyer. Rent is after all for the exclusive occupation of the property by the tenant, something landlords would do well to remember.

My response to a property going up for sale would be fine, the LL can have all the access he wishes after I'm gone and I'll get on with arranging that asap.

Wee_Willy_Harris

franklee wrote: »

I think you are over reacting. It's perfectly natural for a tenant to want to move as soon as he hears the property is going up for sale and reasonable in the light of the disruption caused to have no sympathy the landlord loses the rental income.

As I posted before moving serves the useful purpose of the tenant taking control of when they move for themselves instead of sitting abound hassled by viewings and with the uncertainty of when they will have to move. Note the person you quote made clear they'd serve notice so they'd have done nothing that would warrant deductions fron the bond.

A landlord can't expect to get rent in and access for viewings whilst the property is up for sale much as many would like to have that cake and eat it. A tenant fed up of an estate agent's arrogance in arranging viewings of the kind the OP describes may well feel the LL gets his just deserts of a tenant leaving and thus no income while he tries to find a buyer. Rent is after all for the exclusive occupation of the property by the tenant, something landlords would do well to remember.

My response to a property going up for sale would be fine, the LL can have all the access he wishes after I'm gone and I'll get on with arranging that asap.

No, you just don't get it, do you?

I just think that in this, as in so many aspects of life, negotiation and agreement are far more fruitfull to all concerned that petty vindictiveness and point scoring. Anything could happen before the tenant moves out. Problems may arise which would benefit from the current landlords cooperation, early release of the bond, reduced final months rent, good reference, help with moving, etc etc etc. All these options closed and for what gain? Nothing. So, again, why bother?

franklee

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

No, you just don't get it, do you?

I just think that in this, as in so many aspects of life, negotiation and agreement are far more fruitfull to all concerned that petty vindictiveness and point scoring. Anything could happen before the tenant moves out. Problems may arise which would benefit from the current landlords cooperation, early release of the bond, reduced final months rent, good reference, help with moving, etc etc etc. All these options closed and for what gain? Nothing. So, again, why bother?

A tenant leaving when a property goes up for sale isn't petty vindictiveness and point scoring, it's leaving a situation the tenant doesn't wish to be in. A tenant on a periodic tenancy can give a months notice to leave and that, regardless of your huffing, should not make the landlord throw all his toys about.

Wee_Willy_Harris

franklee wrote: »

A tenant leaving when a property goes up for sale isn't petty vindictiveness and point scoring, it's leaving a situation the tenant doesn't wish to be in. A tenant on a periodic tenancy can give a months notice to leave and that, regardless of your huffing, should not make the landlord throw all his toys about.

cooperation, dear boy. Go and look it up.

I was replying to the poster who wrote...

so that I could leave the LL with no income while he tries to find a buyer! And there are always the questions that viewers ask, about damp...........

Her STATED INTENTION is not to make life easy for herself, but to make life difficult for the landlord. Is that really the way for a grown up to act?

franklee

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

cooperation, dear boy. Go and look it up.

I was replying to the poster who wrote...

so that I could leave the LL with no income while he tries to find a buyer! And there are always the questions that viewers ask, about damp...........

Her STATED INTENTION is not to make life easy for herself, but to make life difficult for the landlord. Is that really the way for a grown up to act?

Oh dear you are mixing up your interpretation with what's written in her post. She doesn't state an intention to make life difficult for herself. She's leaving and glad the landlord will get no rental income. It's your interpretation that the landlord who has put the property up for sale with a tenant on a periodic tenancy who has given proper notice will retaliate with spurious bond deductions and references. I'm putting the case why a landlord has no reason to throw their toys about like that when it's perfectly reasonable for a tenant to give notice and leave when a property goes up for sale without their being any spite on the tenant's part. As someone who doesn't want viewings and uncertainty I'd do that myself, not out of spite to make life difficult for the landlord but because I'd want to leave. The landlord would not know my thoughts on his lack of income would he.

Wee_Willy_Harris

franklee wrote: »

Oh dear you are mixing up your interpretation with what's written in her post. She doesn't state an intention to make life difficult for herself. She's leaving and glad the landlord will get no rental income. It's your interpretation that the landlord who has put the property up for sale with a tenant on a periodic tenancy who has given proper notice will retaliate with spurious bond deductions and references. I'm putting the case why a landlord has no reason to throw their toys about like that when it's perfectly reasonable for a tenant to give notice and leave when a property goes up for sale without their being any spite on the tenant's part. As someone who doesn't want viewings and uncertainty I'd do that myself, not out of spite to make life difficult for the landlord but because I'd want to leave. The landlord would not know my thoughts on his lack of income would he.

Just a quick question. Is English your FIRST language?

franklee

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

Just a quick question. Is English your FIRST language?

Are you always this stupid or are you just making a special effort today?