Public services - wave of redundancies?

davelewis

I've only worked for my LA for 6 months and I can honestly say I have never worked so hard for so little money. Its legal litigation work and from the minute I clock on in the morning I honestly don't stop all day.

The attitude that public sector workers are all lazy and coasting along is wrong - you cannot simply generalise. The vast majority of my team work extremely hard and the constant threat of cuts is so demoralizing.

By the way I have an interview on Monday for a private sector job - If I get it I think I will go - the future of Local Authorities looks very shaky at the moment...

1jim

bobbyj wrote: »

I totally concur my friend, well said. Not all are doing sweet fa but a damn good amount are. Deadwood, wheat from chaff n all that, get rid of the !!!!!!s and their fat gold plated pensions ;-)))))))
Then welcome them into the real world.

You are joking right?
could you point to some roles that are dead wood, can you show me a few people doing sweet fa?
Gold plated pensions..I wish

I work in the NHS, the problem with the NHS and many other public services are that we are the mercy of the government of the day, everytime we get a new government or new Health secretary we get new directives and new guidance, the jobs are not dead wood, the jobs are there to move the organisation in the direction we have been told to move into. This codswallop being sprouted by the tories is nothing new, they talk about cutting costs and burocracy but the telegraph (not the most left wing paper I think you will agree) reports that the changes will cost £3 billion, yes £3 billion to reogranise the NHS yet again. What will happen is that NHS money gets pumped into private companies, yes private companies who will make a profit from delivering the services you enjoy now, they will be provided by the same dead wood you describe now but the profits will be given to shareholders not back into the public pocket. One day you will all wake up, realise that the tories have privatised all of our public services whilst we were blindly agreeing that costs needed to be cut and the massive pensions all of those nurses,health care assistants and porters enjoy need cuting and it will be too late to get back. Just remember that you blindly believed what you were told, that you activley agreed with the cuts, just lets hope that the cuts dont increase waiting times in the A&E dept, that they dont affect GPs, that you dont have to wait 5years for surgery, that you dont need to join the dole queue, that you dont want to borrow that latest book from the library for free, that you dont want a bus pass, that you dont need to send children/grandchildren to school, that you dont want those pot holes fixing in the road, that you dont want the police to come and investigate any crime you are unfortunate to fall vicitim to, that you dont need social care at any point, and if you are lucky enough to retire in good health after all that that you dont really need a pension, The cuts are real, they will affect all of us and we are in this together.................................................its just that some in society will experience the sharp end of these austerity measures a lot more than others.

dori2o

I've come to the decision that IF my job goes (I don't thinki it will affect front line HMRC especially not contact centres,plus there will be a high take up of early retirement/voluntary redundancies) then I'll sell the house for whatever I can get, move into a private rent, claim every benefit I can, and live life on benefit for as long as possible. If the Government is willing to take my job away, then they can pay in other ways to provide me with an income and a roof over my head.

SarEl

dori2o wrote: »

I've come to the decision that IF my job goes (I don't thinki it will affect front line HMRC especially not contact centres,plus there will be a high take up of early retirement/voluntary redundancies) then I'll sell the house for whatever I can get, move into a private rent, claim every benefit I can, and live life on benefit for as long as possible. If the Government is willing to take my job away, then they can pay in other ways to provide me with an income and a roof over my head.

If you sell the house then they will count that as capital and you will get virtually no benefits!

dave4545454

bobbyj wrote: »

I totally concur my friend, well said. Not all are doing sweet fa but a damn good amount are. Deadwood, wheat from chaff n all that, get rid of the !!!!!!s and their fat gold plated pensions ;-)))))))
Then welcome them into the real world.

especially the fat goldplated pensions need to go, they are a disgrace

1jim

do you know much about the pensions or that the average nhs pension is in the region of £7000 a year? that you have had to pay for 40years to get a full pension or that nhs workers have been vastly underpaid for years and one of the reasons for this was a "better" pension. I dont see many retired nurses/health care assistants/porters etc living the high life.....but if it makes you feel better to believe it then I am happy for you

stickman

1jim wrote: »

You are joking right?
could you point to some roles that are dead wood, can you show me a few people doing sweet fa?
Gold plated pensions..I wish

I work in the NHS, the problem with the NHS and many other public services are that we are the mercy of the government of the day, everytime we get a new government or new Health secretary we get new directives and new guidance, the jobs are not dead wood, the jobs are there to move the organisation in the direction we have been told to move into. This codswallop being sprouted by the tories is nothing new, they talk about cutting costs and burocracy but the telegraph (not the most left wing paper I think you will agree) reports that the changes will cost £3 billion, yes £3 billion to reogranise the NHS yet again. What will happen is that NHS money gets pumped into private companies, yes private companies who will make a profit from delivering the services you enjoy now, they will be provided by the same dead wood you describe now but the profits will be given to shareholders not back into the public pocket. One day you will all wake up, realise that the tories have privatised all of our public services whilst we were blindly agreeing that costs needed to be cut and the massive pensions all of those nurses,health care assistants and porters enjoy need cuting and it will be too late to get back. Just remember that you blindly believed what you were told, that you activley agreed with the cuts, just lets hope that the cuts dont increase waiting times in the A&E dept, that they dont affect GPs, that you dont have to wait 5years for surgery, that you dont need to join the dole queue, that you dont want to borrow that latest book from the library for free, that you dont want a bus pass, that you dont need to send children/grandchildren to school, that you dont want those pot holes fixing in the road, that you dont want the police to come and investigate any crime you are unfortunate to fall vicitim to, that you dont need social care at any point, and if you are lucky enough to retire in good health after all that that you dont really need a pension, The cuts are real, they will affect all of us and we are in this together.................................................its just that some in society will experience the sharp end of these austerity measures a lot more than others.

Agree totally.Govmt will hand over vast sums of money to Private Healt Care providers using the same "deadwood" as now only the profits and gold plated pensions will go to the private sector.
It's not about "removing bureaucracy" it's about "transferring" the cost of it out of the Public Sector.

1jim

stickman wrote: »

Agree totally.Govmt will hand over vast sums of money to Private Healt Care providers using the same "deadwood" as now only the profits and gold plated pensions will go to the private sector.
It's not about "removing bureaucracy" it's about "transferring" the cost of it out of the Public Sector.

And the public sectar/dept of health will just spend the same but give it to a private company:mad:

I can see in 20years the NHS will not exist as we know it now, the NHS will just be a logo for an insurance provider, you will be covered by the nhs insurance (paid by contributions from National Insurance and ????top ups) and then will get care delivered by totally private providers. I jokingly ask if you want clubcard points with your hip replacement but its not a million miles from the truth. We moaned about hospital car park charges...can you see private companies providing it free? we moaned about patient line tvs and phones and how much they charged....can you see private companies charging less? we moaned about the quality of food...can you see private companies inproving quality of food for free (or will there be a two tier meal structure)? Another coffee...that will be £2 sir? A single sexed ward...of course madame that will be £x.........and so it starts:(

SarEl

1jim wrote: »

I can see in 20years the NHS will not exist as we know it now,

Darling - the NHS does not exist now as I knew it 20 years ago!

dmbaxt

it's laughable - the papers harp on about golden pensions - yes I work for local government, but I don't pay into the pension cause it ain't all the papers say it is.

likewise the 'golden handshakes' for redundancies - it ain't happenin! example my mom who has worked for LA for 8 years in a day care centre for disabled adults. the council have decided to close it down to save money along with many other centres. where's her golden handshake?? she gets the same as everyone one else who gets made redundant when a company closes - statutory redundancy pay. so believe what you read in The Sun if you like the truth is very different.