Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

Meeper

So, for the purpose of balance you researched ClaireMB's posts to condemn her researching posts? How ironic.

MillicentBystander

Have you ever done anything embarrassing in this thread, dacouch? Can't be bothered to search....;)

dacouch

Meeper wrote: »

So, for the purpose of balance you researched ClaireMB's posts to condemn her researching posts? How ironic.

The irony was not lost on me when I posted it

MillicentBystander

Anyway.......about post 2284

MillicentBystander

So....about post 2284. Not one response to this post absolutely stuffed to the gills with figures, a complete absence of tit for tat nonsense etc etc. Says it all, really. Could it be that certain individuals on here are spending hundred of £££s per month on grocery/petrol shopping and deriving no cash back benefit from that expenditure? I think we need to be told.

The bottom line is this: any household that regularly spends £500/mth at Sainsburys* on groceries/petrol or £500/mth on groceries at Asda* (this is ignoring the potential expenditure on all the other retailers in the UW cashback card scheme, some of which pay 7% cash back) could get this deal**:

Line Rental
Free Connection
No mimimum term contract
Up to 24mb broadband
40GB monthly download allowance
Guaranteed UK-based call centre
24/7 inclusive landline/0870 calls and to 10 top International destinations (Australia, Canada, China, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Israel, Italy, Spain, USA)


...for approx £16.60/mth INCLUDING VAT . That's an everyday price available to all who do as I alluded to in my opening paragraph and take the cash back card. It's not just available to those who have been customers for at least 18 months and know about the 'secret' number for retentions, having to threaten to leave, pay £120 up front and commit to another 12 months (and put up with the frankly awful foreign call centres) etc etc. Now, as one correspondent in this thread keeps banging on about, this is a money saving site soooooo......isn't this the deal to end all deals?? Anyone who can beat it, let's have the details, please. On a like for like basis.


* There must actually be millions of households who do this!

HappyMJ

MillicentBystander wrote: »

So....about post 2284.

You have asked for a better deal on a like for like basis where none exists. No other provider has a cash back card. No other provider has a "no minimum term" contract even though UW will only do the price promise after 12 months and there is a disconnection fee. You have also claimed it's "free connection" yet when I look at the site a potential charge of £69.99 could apply yet on BT it is free when a line and broadband is taken.

Meeper

The guarantee in place is that if you are not saving money based on your previous supplier (subject to being on standard tariff) you will be reimbursed with double the difference.

So, if you are on the cheapest of those ones that you listed, Cardew, UW guarantee to be cheaper. Hence being able to say that UW has the UK's Cheapest Standard Gas & Electricity. It's not too complicated. Yes, there are T&C's with it, just like every special offer from every company in the world, but it's absolutely the case.

Note that we are comparing Standard Tariffs, not every online, capped, fixed and other variant that might be out there to lure customers in. Standard Tariffs. You know, like the ones people have been campaigning for in order to boost simplicity!

And I didn't "personally attack" Quentin, I asked him to limit hiw responses in this thread to the matters at hand, yet he then put another 3-4 posts about my job as a financial adviser, despite my repeated attempts to have him stick to the topic. How can you now declare that he has any interest at all in discussing the facts?

Meeper

HappyMJ wrote: »

You have asked for a better deal on a like for like basis where none exists.

Yet this is what Cardew was doing a few pages back - talking about BT's services and such when it had elements that UW did not offer so it was not a fair comparison. If you want to compare everyone's individual features, it's perfectly acceptable to include the CB Card, surely?

No other provider has a cash back card.

Indeed. Another massive UW benefit.

No other provider has a "no minimum term" contract even though UW will only do the price promise after 12 months and there is a disconnection fee.

Having a disconnection fee is not the same as having a tie-in on your contract, as well you know. Don't try to confuse the issue and make it look as though there is a tie-in when there is not.

You have also claimed it's "free connection" yet when I look at the site a potential charge of £69.99 could apply yet on BT it is free when a line and broadband is taken.

Under what circumstances does the £69.99 apply, and under what circumstances do BT offer the same for free? It's all about those dastardly T&C's again, aren't they a drag?

Quentin

Meeper wrote: »

Now, can we please move back to a discussion of the important matters, not your petty points-scoring?

UW reps will not discuss any "important matters".

eg You (and Keggs) repeatedly tell us we are guaranteed the cheapest deal if we sign up with UW.

It is pointed out this is just not true (and indeed were it so, we would all want to join up). Keggs response is to tell us this forum is boring so he won't post ever again (which is like a mantra from him), and you just ignore the correction (that you have mislead with your claim).

UW gas and electricity prices are expensive. Their telephony and bb is not the cheapest.

UW reps see it as a plus that no contracts are involved. But the competition do in the main go in for contracts - and give excellent incentives for renewals, which UW do not!

In fact, UW's so called incentive (get 10% of your very expensive energy bill back after 12 months) is only for gullible newcomers who agree to stay at least 12 months, so although not bound by a contract they are penalised if they want to leave (maybe after realising how expensive this so called "cheapest" UK energy really is) by not getting their 10% back!

Cardew

HappyMJ wrote: »

You have asked for a better deal on a like for like basis where none exists. No other provider has a cash back card. No other provider has a "no minimum term" contract even though UW will only do the price promise after 12 months and there is a disconnection fee. You have also claimed it's "free connection" yet when I look at the site a potential charge of £69.99 could apply yet on BT it is free when a line and broadband is taken.

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