Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Objectibr

oh for gods sake grow up!!!
If you even remotely tried to be objective you would see that he is quoting facts and not some sales rubbish.

Objectibr

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

It is Debbie........Believe me it is

It is very very very quiet on the Kleeneze front, if it was going that well they'd be on here on there & everywhere :rotfl:

Good riddance :mad:

Regards
John

oh really and how would you know that then?

Objectibr

Peter_Pan wrote: »

I reckon Betterware is a lot more secure than Kleeneze.

Debbie

Debbie how do you come up with that rather decisive decision then? logic? facts?

petestan

Objectibr wrote: »

oh for gods sake grow up!!!
If you even remotely tried to be objective you would see that he is quoting facts and not some sales rubbish.

Objectibr wrote: »

oh really and how would you know that then?

Objectibr wrote: »

Debbie how do you come up with that rather decisive decision then? logic? facts?

Objectibr, your 1st 3 posts all in this thread and it looks like you have come here for a fight, what is the point? You are never going to change anyone's mind if you read back through the previous posts whether they are for or against Kleeneze so why come looking for a fight?

Just for reference I am pro Kleeneze.

billsavings

Objectibr wrote: »

oh for gods sake grow up!!!
If you even remotely tried to be objective you would see that he is quoting facts and not some sales rubbish.

Objectibr i guess you must be pro kleeneze, its normal to declare an interest and make your point sensibly rather then try and pick a fight with other members some of whom who are pro network marketing and know a fair bit about the subject.Whats your actual interest in Kleeneze are you a distributor ? are you one of the people in the article then ?

Did i say the gross earnings in question were made up NO. But they are after all gross earnings and a lot of expenditure has to be deducted from them to come to a realistic figure.

To add all the Top leaders figures together and average them out and suggest the sum you arrive at is achievable beggars belief. £ 14000 a month available to everyone i think not. No doubt your aware that the OFT and the ASA have strict rules about suggesting high earnings are achievable,and such statements should carry a wealth warning etc.

Objectibr

petestan wrote: »

Objectibr, your 1st 3 posts all in this thread and it looks like you have come here for a fight, what is the point? You are never going to change anyone's mind if you read back through the previous posts whether they are for or against Kleeneze so why come looking for a fight?

Just for reference I am pro Kleeneze.

Oh god no!! Fight no just interested in some of the salient points.

I am pro yes

Objectibr

billsavings wrote: »

Objectibr i guess you must be pro kleeneze, its normal to declare an interest and make your point sensibly rather then try and pick a fight with other members some of whom who are pro network marketing and know a fair bit about the subject.Whats your actual interest in Kleeneze are you a distributor ? are you one of the people in the article then ?

Did i say the gross earnings in question were made up NO. But they are after all gross earnings and a lot of expenditure has to be deducted from them to come to a realistic figure.

To add all the Top leaders figures together and average them out and suggest the sum you arrive at is achievable beggars belief. £ 14000 a month available to everyone i think not. No doubt your aware that the OFT and the ASA have strict rules about suggesting high earnings are achievable,and such statements should carry a wealth warning etc.

I wasnt trying to pick a fight and declare sensibly??? LOL i mean what such as you with your little picture and then decide that this is what this means???

Yeah ok NOT the brightest move perhaps and the OFT and ASA states that the wealth warning states that these figures are NOT EASILY achieveable DOESNT SAY anything about achievable about earnings.
YOU ARE right though THEY should carry a wealth warning.

Now may i take exception to lots of expenses etc from their cheques?? Do you know them personally? Cause i do each and every single one of them and I also have a significant income from this and my expenses are NOT massive. I get taxed YES, i ahve other bills yes but even if you were to take off all of that my income is sizeably bigger than the average GROSS income every month / year however you put it

billsavings

Objectibr wrote: »

Yeah ok NOT the brightest move perhaps and the OFT and ASA states that the wealth warning states that these figures are NOT EASILY achieveable DOESNT SAY anything about achievable about earnings.
YOU ARE right though THEY should carry a wealth warning.

Now may i take exception to lots of expenses etc from their cheques?? Do you know them personally? Cause i do each and every single one of them and I also have a significant income from this and my expenses are NOT massive. I get taxed YES, i ahve other bills yes but even if you were to take off all of that my income is sizeably bigger than the average GROSS income every month / year however you put it

Glad you agree with me on the first 2 points.

As far as the expenses are concerned apart from tax and nic are you trying saying that a quite a lot of expenditure is not incurred by successful leaders like the ones quoted.

missterryshopper

Objectibr wrote: »

my income is sizeably bigger than the average GROSS income every month / year however you put it

Is that that not the case with most senior leaders in direct selling.But its not easily achievable by your average Joe as indicated.

Peter_Pan

Objectibr wrote: »

Debbie how do you come up with that rather decisive decision then? logic? facts?

Its just my own opinion based on my own findings, i have nothing against either Company and believe in sales via brochure are achievable in all Companies, after all we are building a customer base successfully for the third time with 3 different Companies but the difference is i'm building it at my own pace that fits in with our lifestyle and commitments this time

Debbie