Kleeneeze or Betterware?

JennyJewell

Hi Deb, Honest John and all
I had been wondering where our thread has been hiding,lol!
Please be kind to me - I've been laid up in bed with flu, (thought I'd had flu before but realise now after the real deal that I hadn't before! On the road to recovery now though )
I haven't personally badgered any Betterware reps - it's not my style and I don't believe Betterware are in any kind of trouble anyway. It wouldn't make any difference to my own actions anyway - I sill wouldn't contact reps from other companies regardless. It's a shame if others choose to do that though - it's morally wrong, unethical and just rude if you ask me.
I wouldn't know which company is the most secure to be honest - as you know I hold respect for both companies and what they do having been involved with both in the past and found the two companies useful for me at those times

My sales are still going fine with Kleeneze - just had a setback because of illness but will be back with it next week

Hope everyone else is well x
Jen

Jen

Peter_Pan

Sorry to hear you've been unwell again Jenny hope you are fully recovered soon.

I was chatting to our Betterware man a while ago (long story but his phone keeps calling our landline number at all hours :eek:)
anyone he is very loyal to Betterware and seems to really enjoy it and even keeps saying i should join even though he knows i'm more than happy doing what i'm doing , the only thing with Betterware when we were chatting is he would have to go full time to be able to team build and increase his income and hes not prepared to give up the security/pension of his shift work.
Whereas with Kleeneze and companies like i'm with you can learn as you earn retailing but you can also team build from day one with your sponsors help and guidance and if you are prepared to take on the responsibility of learning the skills needed to support a new person.

Rowing with two oars instead of with Betterware its just the one oar and if you have to stop retailing for whatever reason (and our chap retails in several areas so must put lots of brochures out each week) the income stops

Debbie

billsavings

Jenny hope you feel better soon.

I am not sure why you feel the need to promote another opportunity in this dedicated thread.

JennyJewell

Morning all
Thank you Deb and billsavings, I'm on the mend

I shall edit the last part of my previous post bill - it was just me waffling about life so far at my end

Happiness and health all
Jen

JennyJewell

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Honest_John_666

Peter_Pan wrote: »

Sorry to hear you've been unwell again Jenny hope you are fully recovered soon.

I was chatting to our Betterware man a while ago (long story but his phone keeps calling our landline number at all hours :eek:)
anyone he is very loyal to Betterware and seems to really enjoy it and even keeps saying i should join even though he knows i'm more than happy doing what i'm doing , the only thing with Betterware when we were chatting is he would have to go full time to be able to team build and increase his income and hes not prepared to give up the security/pension of his shift work.
Whereas with Kleeneze and companies like i'm with you can learn as you earn retailing but you can also team build from day one with your sponsors help and guidance and if you are prepared to take on the responsibility of learning the skills needed to support a new person.

Rowing with two oars instead of with Betterware its just the one oar and if you have to stop retailing for whatever reason (and our chap retails in several areas so must put lots of brochures out each week) the income stops

Debbie

Sorry Debbie that above is complete rubbish & would suggest that you go onto Betterware website. The numbers/facts/percentages & positions are all there for everyone to see

My contact @ Betterware knows excatly who your are talking about & will ask him NOT TO CALL you again. He also said he knows exactly what the person earns & where he works so is VERY qualified to share with us all the facts. He knows exactly what this person sells & what areas he covers.

You dont need to give up your full time job & Betterware never ever will tell you that. That is not something many or any MLM /NWM companies will. IMO its about being honest. The person you mention does a good level of sales evey week & is very loyal. He is would be able to get £15 for every lead he sells back to Betterware

The average Betterware Team Leader will earn in the region of £15 per hour pro rata FACT. The only difference is that for a TEAM LEADER role you would need a car & a computer. Like with every business not everybody is suited.

Good luck with the ECO stuff have heards on the grapevine/jungle drums its not going too well in general???

Regards
John

Peter_Pan

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

Sorry Debbie that above is complete rubbish & would suggest that you go onto Betterware website. The numbers/facts/percentages & positions are all there for everyone to see

My contact @ Betterware knows excatly who your are talking about & will ask him NOT TO CALL you again. He also said he knows exactly what the person earns & where he works so is VERY qualified to share with us all the facts. He knows exactly what this person sells & what areas he covers.

You dont need to give up your full time job & Betterware never ever will tell you that. That is not something many or any MLM /NWM companies will. IMO its about being honest. The person you mention does a good level of sales evey week & is very loyal. He is would be able to get £15 for every lead he sells back to Betterware

The average Betterware Team Leader will earn in the region of £15 per hour pro rata FACT. The only difference is that for a TEAM LEADER role you would need a car & a computer. Like with every business not everybody is suited.

Good luck with the ECO stuff have heards on the grapevine/jungle drums its not going too well in general???

Regards
John

The phone problem is actually not his fault honest John and hes sorting it, he had our number from pitching me for another opportunity a while back he had joined but left after a few weeks. As i say its just what came up in conversation and as i don't intend joining Betterware and am very happy where i am i didn't see any reason to check.

As for the Eco thing i'm very happy and not sure where the grapevine heard it wasn't going too well. I hope i'm not going to get jumped on for responding to that comment Both sides of our Business (retailing and recruiting) are going well and we have some very passionate people onboard bringing fantastic new ideas other than conventional ideas in NW , its not like a conventional NW Business in that its just sales sales sales to earn ourselves some money, we also have an important message to get out there and by doing that the sales and earnings come naturally and gives us greater opportunity to really run our own Businesses in ways you can't with other Companies, some people come and go like any opportunity and want it to be perfect when they join but because it is different and we are continually breaking ground with it they get fed up. I personally love it

I won't say anything else as this is a Betterware/Kleeneze thread so back on topic.

Debbie

Honest_John_666

Peter_Pan wrote: »

The phone problem is actually not his fault honest John and hes sorting it, he had our number from pitching me for another opportunity a while back he had joined but left after a few weeks. As i say its just what came up in conversation and as i don't intend joining Betterware and am very happy where i am i didn't see any reason to check.

As for the Eco thing i'm very happy and not sure where the grapevine heard it wasn't going too well. I hope i'm not going to get jumped on for responding to that comment Both sides of our Business (retailing and recruiting) are going well and we have some very passionate people onboard bringing fantastic new ideas other than conventional ideas in NW , its not like a conventional NW Business in that its just sales sales sales to earn ourselves some money, we also have an important message to get out there and by doing that the sales and earnings come naturally and gives us greater opportunity to really run our own Businesses in ways you can't with other Companies, some people come and go like any opportunity and want it to be perfect when they join but because it is different and we are continually breaking ground with it they get fed up. I personally love it

I won't say anything else as this is a Betterware/Kleeneze thread so back on topic.

Debbie

Thanks Debbie dont like to hear of anyone hassling people so I could've got that stopped straight away for you BUT if your OK & its under control then it should be OK

So he tried another company did he??? All about choice I suppose, no wonder he always looks very tired & is very set in his ways BUT hes a nice person from what I've been told.

As long as your doing OK then thats fine. Just like the forever living business you must be passionate & beleive in the products. Theres nothing wrong with showing passion & sharing your beliefs. There's rumours about all the time & there's a thread on here that Betterware were in trouble :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: As far as I know they're not BUT who knows with any company these days :eek:

Good luck

Regards
John

Peter_Pan

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

Thanks Debbie dont like to hear of anyone hassling people so I could've got that stopped straight away for you BUT if your OK & its under control then it should be OK

So he tried another company did he??? All about choice I suppose, no wonder he always looks very tired & is very set in his ways BUT hes a nice person from what I've been told.

As long as your doing OK then thats fine. Just like the forever living business you must be passionate & beleive in the products. Theres nothing wrong with showing passion & sharing your beliefs. There's rumours about all the time & there's a thread on here that Betterware were in trouble :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: As far as I know they're not BUT who knows with any company these days :eek:

Good luck

Regards
John

Thanks John.

It did get annoying when the phone rang at 3am a couple of days especially as we have a Son at Uni whose number ends in the same last 3 digits - made us panic for a few minutes:eek: but hopefully it'll get sorted otherwise i'll end up stamping on his phone next time i see him

Forever Living products are great just too expensive in my mind to find regular repeat buying customers which is why i am very happy where i am. Whatever Business people choose they have to enjoy it and have some fun i think.
I think sometimes rumours start from people reading too much into something as with the latest Betterware thread , i believe its a good sign when a Company makes changes to fit with the economic climate, they aren't too proud to say hey this part isn't working lets make some changes

Have a great weekend everyone :beer:
Debbie

billsavings

Latest idea lump all the leaders four weekly gross earnings together and make out £14,000 four weekly is acheivable.

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