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  • Drea
    Drea Posts: 9,892 Forumite
    You don't need stamps - you can just cross through address and write the new address on an envelope. It works.
    (definitely for prepaid stuff like bank statements)

    I think forwarding the odd piece of mail is fair enough, but this is unreasonable. What sort of post is it? Can you tell from company names on envelopes?

    Also if you want to give your landlord the benefit of the doubt, I don't know how up to date the landlord registration website is - my landlord was on it when I first looked it up, but it said the managing agent was a local university (which is not the case, and hadn't been for at least a year)
    but you are definitely within your rights to check with the Local Council. and doesn't sound like he is doing things by the book.

    He is getting letters from British Gas, DVLA, his electoral postal vote thing came here, not sure about the rest.
    OP if you have an AST you CAN NOT be thrown out before it expires but your landlord does have the right to decide not to renew or extend it, so it would be sensible to make plans to leave at the end of the term. Please buy a carbon monoxide alarm asap

    It's a shame but I think I've resigned myself to the fact we'll be moving out after the 6 months. My flatmate was leaving anyway to go travelling so it was already a decision of whether I wanted to try find someone else or leave.
    Just because you made a mistake doesn't mean you are a mistake.
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    Drea wrote: »
    He is getting letters from British Gas, DVLA, his electoral postal vote thing came here, not sure about the rest.

    so he is still registered at your address for everything basically
  • g_attrill
    g_attrill Posts: 691 Forumite
    custardy wrote: »
    why would it be?
    who pays for that?

    I can't find an online reference right now, but it is a standard service that you can redirect a piece of mail for free if you write the new address on it and drop it back in a letter box on the same day of delivery.
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    g_attrill wrote: »
    I can't find an online reference right now, but it is a standard service that you can redirect a piece of mail for free if you write the new address on it and drop it back in a letter box on the same day of delivery.

    really,I look forward to you finding reference to that in the USO

    so i say again,who pays for that? why does it matter its the same day?
    why does RM charge for redirections then?
    how does that work with downstream access mail? does the mail get returned to the originating company to then be transported to the destination mail centre for redelivery by RM?
  • pyueck
    pyueck Posts: 426 Forumite
    The landlord has no right demand that you forward him his mail, only that you store any mail he has or for any mail to be returned to the sender. For him to insist that you forward all mail to him on a Wednesday and holds you accountable if it is not is completely out of order. You also have no legal obligation to do this no matter what he thinks is a condition of the tenancy.

    I would send him a firm letter saying:

    'During our tenancy as Landlord you have asked us to forward all mail to you on a Wednesday. Up to now as goodwill, we have endeavored to do this. On the occassion we were not able to do this, you held us accountable for the inconvenience our actions caused you and threatened to not renew our tenancy.

    As a tenant we have the statutory right to quiet enjoyment of our home. This means that while we occupy the premises we intend to use the property as our home, and expect the landlord to not use the property as their home. A key part of this is that we do not expect the landlord to use the property as their main mailing address, as one would use their home. I recommend that you make immidiate contact with all utility suppliers, banks and other correspondents to make them aware of an address for yourself that is not our home. For the next month as a gesture of goodwill we will keep all mail received that is addressed to yourself in the property, and you may pick it up by giving 24 hours written notice at a time convenient for ourselves. After this time all mail will be returned to the sender.

    XXXXX

    The landlord sounds like a dodgy guy, probably best to move on.
  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    Drea it is really not a good idea to communicate with your landlord via text message, use e-mail if you wish to keep it reasonably informal but still have a record of every contact. Bear in mind he is an amateur and has already 'threatened' to kick you out after six months, this has the potential to get messy so you should keep copies of everything.
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  • lynzpower
    lynzpower Posts: 25,311 Forumite
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    Drea

    regardless of whether you are moving out in a few months or not a carbon monoxide alarm is absolutely vital.

    Don t shrug it off like many do, come home to find their flatmate unconscious and not coming back.....
    :beer: Well aint funny how its the little things in life that mean the most? Not where you live, the car you drive or the price tag on your clothes.
    Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
    This Ive come to know...
    So if you agree have a drink with me, raise your glasses for a toast :beer:
  • Drea
    Drea Posts: 9,892 Forumite
    pyueck wrote: »
    The landlord has no right demand that you forward him his mail, only that you store any mail he has or for any mail to be returned to the sender. For him to insist that you forward all mail to him on a Wednesday and holds you accountable if it is not is completely out of order. You also have no legal obligation to do this no matter what he thinks is a condition of the tenancy.

    I would send him a firm letter saying:

    'During our tenancy as Landlord you have asked us to forward all mail to you on a Wednesday. Up to now as goodwill, we have endeavored to do this. On the occassion we were not able to do this, you held us accountable for the inconvenience our actions caused you and threatened to not renew our tenancy.

    As a tenant we have the statutory right to quiet enjoyment of our home. This means that while we occupy the premises we intend to use the property as our home, and expect the landlord to not use the property as their home. A key part of this is that we do not expect the landlord to use the property as their main mailing address, as one would use their home. I recommend that you make immidiate contact with all utility suppliers, banks and other correspondents to make them aware of an address for yourself that is not our home. For the next month as a gesture of goodwill we will keep all mail received that is addressed to yourself in the property, and you may pick it up by giving 24 hours written notice at a time convenient for ourselves. After this time all mail will be returned to the sender.

    XXXXX

    The landlord sounds like a dodgy guy, probably best to move on.

    I just worry that rocking the boat will make it difficult to get deposits back from him... I do wish Scotland had a protection scheme like England does :(
    Fire_Fox wrote: »
    Drea it is really not a good idea to communicate with your landlord via text message, use e-mail if you wish to keep it reasonably informal but still have a record of every contact. Bear in mind he is an amateur and has already 'threatened' to kick you out after six months, this has the potential to get messy so you should keep copies of everything.

    I don't have an email address for him, we haven't really been in touch about anything other than the washing machine which was a phone call. I haven't text him about this, he sent me the text. I will keep copies of anything I send (if I do) though :)
    lynzpower wrote: »
    Drea

    regardless of whether you are moving out in a few months or not a carbon monoxide alarm is absolutely vital.

    Don't shrug it off like many do, come home to find their flatmate unconscious and not coming back.....

    I'm on it ;)
    Just because you made a mistake doesn't mean you are a mistake.
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    Hi Drea. Sorry to read that you are having more LL problems.

    I wouldn't waste time writing letters to the LL about re-direction of mail. Pyueck's letter has his/her usual muddled thinking
    Pyueck wrote:
    You also have no legal obligation to do this no matter what he thinks is a condition of the tenancy.

    I would send him a firm letter saying:

    'During our tenancy as Landlord you have asked us to forward all mail to you on a Wednesday. Up to now as goodwill, we have endeavored to do this. On the occassion we were not able to do this, you held us accountable for the inconvenience our actions caused you and threatened to not renew our tenancy.
    "
    My highlighting. Unpleasant though the LL's actions are , you know that the LL, in turn, has no legal obligation to renew after the expiry of the original Fixed Term

    The LL's post is coming to the property because he is attempting to let "under the radar" - no Registration, no HMRC etc.

    If the current LL is not registered, as required by Scottish law, then he can be prosecuted and served with a Rent Penalty Notice by the local Council should you report him. He will then not be able to collect any further rent on the property until such time as he does get himself registered.

    You say that you would be moving on anyway, as your house mate intends to go off travelling, so go via the Scottish Association of LLs or your local Council for contact details for private LLs who are accredited and Registered.

    If your current LL tries to subsequently play silly b's with your deposit you can pursue him through the Sheriff Court: failing to Register himself won't help his case.
  • Drea
    Drea Posts: 9,892 Forumite
    tbs624 wrote: »
    Hi Drea. Sorry to read that you are having more LL problems.

    I wouldn't waste time writing letters to the LL about re-direction of mail. Pyueck's letter has his/her usual muddled thinking My highlighting. Unpleasant though the LL's actions are , you know that the LL, in turn, has no legal obligation to renew after the expiry of the original Fixed Term

    The LL's post is coming to the property because he is attempting to let "under the radar" - no Registration, no HMRC etc.

    If the current LL is not registered, as required by Scottish law, then he can be prosecuted and served with a Rent Penalty Notice by the local Council should you report him. He will then not be able to collect any further rent on the property until such time as he does get himself registered.

    You say that you would be moving on anyway, as your house mate intends to go off travelling, so go via the Scottish Association of LLs or your local Council for contact details for private LLs who are accredited and Registered.

    If your current LL tries to subsequently play silly b's with your deposit you can pursue him through the Sheriff Court: failing to Register himself won't help his case.

    Thanks tbs :) can't you be my LL instead? :rotfl:

    I'll speak to my flatmate tonight to see if he wants to do this, with him travelling he won't have time to hang around to get his deposit if LL messes around with it so will need to see what he thinks. Very tempting though!
    Just because you made a mistake doesn't mean you are a mistake.
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