ELECTION: Romford/Barking - I predict a riot....

liam8282

ninky wrote: »

those accused of murder and manslaughter can be aquited on a defense of provocation but not assault. although it can influence sentencing.

provocation is a defense in other countries such as the states.

in this case i might say the (uk) law is an !!!. clearly if provocation is a defense for killing someone it should be for spitting on them.

Ahh, so the 3 lads should have killed the BNP guy, that would have been much better. He did provoke them after all.:rotfl:

inspector_monkfish

bioboybill wrote: »

I hate the BNP for the racist scum that they are. The BNP fella was clearly inciting trouble by shouting stuff over the road. When the lads came over he didn't want to know anymore and tried to frighten them off with comments about there being more of them. However in his defence (and I hate to do that) I would say that most people would lose it if somebody spat in their face. I would say the police would see the fight as six of one and half a dozen of the other. They might however have a word with the BNP about going around shouting stuff at people and inciting trouble in the first place.

thats cleared that up then :beer:

now, what about the woman with the huge @rse at the end of the clip?

Pete111

Ok can we all please agree:

1) The BNP are scum
2) Spitting is gross
3) Spitting on the BNP is in theory a protest at their god awful politics but in actuality, still gross, potentially illegal and fundamentally a waste of useful enzymes.

Made for good footage though!

liam8282

We live in a democracy, the BNP are a political party with hundreds of thousands, if not millions of voters.

These candidates are just expressing the views of the party and the people they represent.

That is the result of us living in a democracy.

I personally don't support the BNP, but they have the same rights as every other party.

If you don't like them, ignore them, don't vote for them.

Really2

ninky wrote: »

those accused of murder and manslaughter can be aquited on a defense of provocation but not assault. although it can influence sentencing.

provocation is a defense in other countries such as the states.

in this case i might say the (uk) law is an !!!. clearly if provocation is a defense for killing someone it should be for spitting on them.

Is that still not diminished responsibility? (still likely to get maslaughter don't forget murder is premeditated not defence)

Not even you could believe the man today would of got off if he murdered him instead of spitting on him.
So not sure what you are arguing against here, like I said 2 wrongs don't make a right.

lostinrates

Pete111 wrote: »

2) Spitting is gross

Some people prefer it to the alternative. Otherwise excellent post.

lemonjelly

ninky wrote: »

those accused of murder and manslaughter can be aquited on a defense of provocation but not assault. although it can influence sentencing.

provocation is a defense in other countries such as the states.

in this case i might say the (uk) law is an !!!. clearly if provocation is a defense for killing someone it should be for spitting on them.

They may be aquitted, but will still be charged with alternate charges such as manslaughter, or guilty on grounds of diminished responsibility, therefore still guilty...

Whilst I understand your point, & my dislike for the BNP is high, the lads spitting were wrong & should be charged accordingly. ninky, do you think they were in the right or wrong?

if you believe in freedom of speech, you gotta hear things you don't wanna hear...

Pete111

lostinrates wrote: »

Some people prefer it to the alternative. Otherwise excellent post.

Ooooer missus!

inspector_monkfish

liam8282 wrote: »

We live in a democracy, the BNP are a political party with hundreds of thousands, if not millions of voters.

These candidates are just expressing the views of the party and the people they represent.

That is the result of us living in a democracy.

I personally don't support the BNP, but they have the same rights as every other party.

If you don't like them, ignore them, don't vote for them.

:eek: RACIST :eek:

next, you'll be celebrating st Georges day..... :eek:

inspector_monkfish

lemonjelly wrote: »

They may be aquitted, but will still be charged with alternate charges such as manslaughter, or guilty on grounds of diminished responsibility, therefore still guilty...

Whilst I understand your point, & my dislike for the BNP is high, the lads spitting were wrong & should be charged accordingly. ninky, do you think they were in the right or wrong?

if you believe in freedom of speech, you gotta hear things you don't wanna hear...

I sentance you to Death By Spitting ......

...now, where is Roy Hattersley.....