Who DON’T you want to win the election?

Scousemaid

Are you trying to say that the Tories would not have gone to war? I remember Thatcher and the Falklands that was only for her self agrandissment! As to you and your pistols, maybe you wanted them to "punish" all of the "antisocial people" identified by you and your father. And I note that you are certainly earning a high slary under Labour!

Terry_D

Dogpitt wrote: »

I've just read the four pages of drivel that this thread has generated so far, and I can't say that I'm surprised to encounter some of the utter nonsense that some of you have spewed out. It's quite impressive how truly ignorant many of you are; this thread is riddled with a plethora of policy and statistical inaccuracies.

I was saying only today to several of my colleagues how it infuriates me how clueless so many people are when it comes to the facts this election, yet they still have a strong view one way or the other, despite actually how skewed or misguided it is. I honestly wish that only those who are actually knowledgeble enough to know their party's policies, are actually allowed to vote.

Several of us had a go at the quiz on votematch earlier (in the MSE newsletter) and it was interesting to see the results certain people were getting. Perhaps in the future a similar tool to this could be used to actually determine the views, and ultimately the votes, of the British public. No doubt if this were ever to happen though, we'd probably end of with a BNP government in power...

Well I see you haven't read "How to win friends and influence people"! Perhaps rather than writing with such a pompous attitude you might give us drivellers the benefit of your superior intellectual knowledge of British politics and tell us how and why we should vote tomorrow and save us the bother of further debate?

rickbonar

The truth is none of these will win outright.

All of them have some good policies but a lot of bad policies.

Labour should have ditched Brown sometime ago. (sadly a once good party has been infiltrated by very nasty soviet fags and agitators)

It's anybodies guess who'll have the most seats and the Lib Dems have a real chance of power at last. ( similar to labour particularly dangerously PC )

As for the Conservatives it hurts me say it but although is it like the slave voting for his master they are the only ones that even vaguely talk the talk. (but will they walk the walk)

Immediate withdrawal from the EU and reversal of immigration policies. A special customs Police squad employed with employed special powers to search detain and arrest without warrant illegal immigrants.

I think we all could benefit from PR and the Lib Dems have a serious chance of getting that now.
With PR the fringe parties will be properly represented and you could vote for policies that you really believe in rather than taking the rough with the smooth as we do now.

It is time for a change allright but a change that can reflect the Real view of the voters instead of what we're being told to think!

lazyacademic

lazyacademic wrote: »

I'll be voting Conservative, and all real Money Savers should be looking to do the same! Couldn't have the Mickey Mouse Lib Dem gang get in who think we're living in a utopian world. Absolute joke.

However if Labour did get in I wouldn't mind as much, at least they'll protect the banking system, something none of the other parties are willing to do

Someone asked how a Moneysaver could vote Conservative. That's because the other parties want to impose higher taxes, therefore leaving us with less money. Also, it doesn't matter how rich you are, you still save money! Do you think Richard Branson got to where he is today without saving money?!
Lib Dems are a joke, they're the party that must be stopped at all costs.

In terms of bank reform, people fail to realise that our country's wealth comes from and because of the banking sector. People like to use them as a scapegoat, when in fact Barclay's, HSBC etc weren't bailed out and acted properly. If you want to take tax from RBS and Lloyds whilst it's partly publicly owned, fine, but leave the rest alone, and stop willing MPs to restrict a thriving sector that our economy depends upon!! (I have no relationships with banks btw, I'm just using common sense.)

rickbonar

Does Nick Clegg have the bottle to get PR?

dizzie

frogman wrote: »

I'm an AbC...Anyone but Conservative...mainly because I am also Anyone but Cameron...;)

What a coincidence..I'm an ABC too...

I'm an

Anti-Brown Convert

It's time to save Britain. The poor Greeks are in so much trouble they desperately need help from the EU/IMF....and that will only happen when those bodies are satisfied that Greece has gone as far as it can (i.e with massive cuts in its public spending) to help itself

And in the debt stakes...we're a cat's whisker behind Greece!

So what are we going to do? Start looking to see where we can save money now...or wait until our debt reaches crises point, till we loose our financial credibility altogether, till the pound devalues further and interest rates start to shoot up? ....Till we have to beg for financial help ourselves?

If we do that, we won't be in the position of choosing where to make cuts and trying to protect the more vulnerable areas - we'll be in the position of being forced to make cuts to satisfy the international community that we are worthy of financial help!

We have all got to do our bit, and take back the responsibility for our own lives! We've got to find ways of building strong communities again who help each other and who have a sense of moral responsibility. We should not be happy to sit back and watch communities become broken, watch the crime figures rise, watch as people become isolated, depressed and lonely and then say "Ah government will spend some money to sort it out! " We've been there and done that - it isn't a fix-all solution!!

We need to empower people to help themselves and each other...not crappy laws that say two part-time working mothers can't come to a private arrangement about helping to look after each other's children, to help each other out, without having to bloomin' get it passed by some government official! We've got to get a grip on common sense again!

We're in this mess together and I'd like to see a debate about what each individual person would be prepared to sacrifice.

We give to charity, but now we've got to consider our economy a bit of a charity case. So I'd be happy to give up our family allowance - we're not a rich family but we both work hard and have enough to pay for our own kids - and it was our decision to have children. So if it was a lifestyle choice, and if we don't need the money, why should I expect the taxpayer to help to keep our children? I think it should be means-tested, along with the child trust fund payments etc.

People who haven't got money to spare like my mum often give up some of their time to help out in their local communities - shopping for an elderly neighbour or popping in to see if they're okay. Others I know are teacher helpers in a local school, or help out at a scouts group. My father in-law is a volunteer for a local conservation group and helps to do all sorts of stuff in our local countryside. We need more people like this - it makes a massive difference to the quality of our lives, our children's lives and the environments in which we live....we don't need to spend money on everything...sometimes we can improve our quality of life for free, thanks to dedicated people like these.

Having being bought up in a mining area in the NE of England, where it was almost a culture just to vote Labour, I honestly believe they'll bring this country to its knees if they get in again.

So in summary, I'm not going to enjoy the tax hikes - whoever gets in, but I think that those who can pull their belts in a bit should do so. We should also put a culture of responsibilty back into the people of Britain and increase people's self-esteem and self-confidence by empowering them to do their bit, without being hampered by ridiculous legislation that just isn't based on common sense.

mjh421

teddyco wrote: »

What Thatcher did? You mean what the Labour Government did before she came to power who forced her to make a lot of hard choices that many people blame her for today.

You do remember the endless strikes in 1978, the loans that Britain got from the IMF to keep us floating, the power shortages, the rubbish piled a mile high on Britain's streets? Britain was in a horrible state and Labour was the cause just like what Gordon Brown has done today to the economy. Also, you seem to blame Thatcher with '15% inflation'? Did you know that it was 28% under the previous Labour Government before Thatcher?

If David Cameron is elected, he too will be remembered for making a lot of hard choices and be blamed unfairly as he goes about 'cleaning up the mess'.

The problem with people is that they have a short memory.

As a labour supporter before Margaret Thatcher got elected I received a lot of banter from my father in law and his ex Bankers wife about labour, saying precisely what you are now. They were pensioners at the time and two years later my wife and I spent a weekend with them in Cornwall, at the dinner table I cockily asked how they were finding life under dear old Maggie, My stepmother in law somberly replied that every time Margaret Thatcher came on the television her brother wanted to put a brick through the screen, as he had just been made bankrupt and lost 20 workers at his Engineering company.

I do not want a repeat of those days thank you. Also I did not make this up its all fact and true.

baldy_pete

There is an option that the media don't make enough of.

I will be voting for none of the above tomorrow but will be taking the time to go to the polling station. I will put a large x across the paper, which I know they call a spoilt ballot, is the only method to indicate our dissatisfaction with the whole lot of them.

A bunch of self-serving, expenses grabbing pigs, who are all intent on perpetuating their own little world.

If we stay at home and say that it makes no difference or don't bother voting because we can't make up our mind who is the least worst of them it wont, but if a significant number of people took the time to go out and literally make their mark, it would give a strong message that people wanted change but not in the patronising way that they all think they can bull**it us.

Spoilt ballots are counted, so imagine if at the count instead of 20 or 30 spoilt papers there were 100s.

So don't sit on your A*se, give them a kick up theirs!

Send this message to all your contacts who are undecided or just fed up with the whole thing and give them another option.

Anyway we all need to exercise more and a walk to the polling station will do you good.

rickbonar

I think there is a party or parties that may represent your view.

Perhaps if that party is not standing in your district you should write on the ballot paper their name and a box and cross that.

OK it is a spoilt ballot but it will also demonstrate a real vote.

ringo1947

clairecymru wrote: »

I really dont want the Tories in power, I dont trust David Cameron. Nick Clegg really doesnt have a clue. I trust Gordon Brown to get us totally out of the recession and I dont want anyone else messing up the economy.

If Labour get in you'll only have to wait until ther year end to find out the few people who have not held this country to ransom since they were re-elected!

You can then call him "Give in Gordon".