General State of Human Nature

Nukumai

Equaliser123 wrote: »

You know absolutely nothing about my "personal values" so please don't try and take the moral high ground.

I'm not too sure who you think you are and why you are so presumptious to call people "bigots" and assume that those who disagree with you have questionable personal values.

Rather insulting, don't you think?

Hmmm...seems I have touched a nerve?

And, FWIW, I will not only "take" the moral high ground against bigots, but will claim the moral high ground. Any right-minded person would.

Dave101t

those sorts of people always go to mcdonalds, like city centre supermarkets, full of tosers.
try out of town ones, usually much nicer...usually....

tomstickland

Stop going to McDonalds - it's a magnet for morons.

missymugwump

Bit like this forum some times lol

RHYSDAD

DebtHater wrote: »

But, when you think about it, doesnt that sum up the young modern age parent? They all seem to bring their kids up like that these days

I was brought up to have respect and to think of others, but was also told to treat people how they treated me. So if someone was rude, they should expect to get it back, simple as.

Like when I am driving out and about, and I let someone cross or let someone pull out, how many of them dont even bother to acknowledge you! I wouldnt even dream of ignoring someone who let me out!

Not here, thanks, my children will have the principles instilled in them that myself and their mother had. They'll be taught to put others first. Don't tar everyone with that brush thanks very much

Equaliser123

Nukumai wrote: »

Hmmm...seems I have touched a nerve?

And, FWIW, I will not only "take" the moral high ground against bigots, but will claim the moral high ground. Any right-minded person would.

Why would a rambling from an anonymous person on the internet touch a nerve with me?

Ultimately couldn't give a stuff what you say. I just find it odd how people overdo the racist / bigot stuff.

inca_2

In response to the post a while back about reserving seats and finding people sitting there even though it is clearly reserved I agree that it's annoying and rude. Last time that happened to me I politely mentioned that I had reserved that seat (the card was still there to show it) and he stormed off cursing and saying 'I knew someone would say that' hardly surprising really when you're sitting in a seat that is marked as reserved hey?
It also annoys me however when people reserve their seats but can't be bothered to walk to the correct carriage to find it and say 'oh we'll just sit here instead' their reserved seat is now sitting empty while they have taken up another seat, not a problem if it's a quiet train but if it's a packed out train it means other people then don't get a seat because they see the reserved cards in the seats that people couldn't be bothered to walk to. I've seen it no end of times.

I don't think you can generalise a particular age group, race, culture, gender etc as being rude or disrespectful I can honestly say I've found both politeness and rudeness across the spectrum. It is sad though that the simple act of thanking someone whether it be for picking something up, holding a door open, letting someone pass etc seems completely alien to some. It takes no effort at all, I'd be mortified if someone did something for me and I hadn't even had the decency to acknowledge it.

Nukumai

Equaliser123 wrote: »

I just find it odd how people overdo the racist / bigot stuff.

I've already stated in a prior posting that I don't necessarily disagree with this statement.

But I don't let it blind me to the fact that bigotry does exist; I'm still able to recognise it when I see/hear it.

Fuzzy_Duck

scotsman4th wrote: »

Over my entire life, i've shown respect, been courteous, made allowancies and generally been mr nice guy. My friends call me horizontal because I'm so laid back.
Why? Where does it get you?
Whats changed. Yesterday I went to Mcdonalds. I went upstairs, found a seat and started getting the kids organised. (2 1 year olds to carry up, a 5 year old and our shopping).
Went up, found a 2 table and a 1 for the 6 of us. getting organised putting the babies in high chairs etc and an old lady comes up with her grand daughter and sits down (no food also before the "get served then sit brigade" gets going).
Thats ok thinks me, with the bench seat, 2 baby seats, we'll all be able to sit and eat.
Goes and get's served (another story) comes back up and theres another lady appeared and between the 3 of them, they've taken over 2 of the 3 tables ensuring we couldnt sit beside them.
So we moved. But this time, I made a big deal of it.
So what do I do from now on? Still be mr nice, or become an ignorant, selfish, self important !!!!!! like a lot of the rest.

Just goes to show that it's not all young people who are rude- there's plenty of rude people around, of every age. I had a similar problem when I went to the pub on a Friday evening, and we managed to get the last table. A couple of middle aged women asked if they could sit down. We had a bit of spare room, so we obliged. A few minutes later several more people turned up, and these women shoved right up to let their friends in. We couldn't hear our own conversation over theirs, and one rather fat woman had shoved up so much she was practically sat on my left leg. We had to get up and wait for another table to clear. I think we were hoping they'd feel a bit bad forcing us out, but it was obvious from their gleeful faces as they all got comfortable that that was their plan all along.

How did you make a fuss by the way? I like the idea of you plonking down on their laps I don't think it makes you a bad person- treat people with respect unless they show you reason not to. If you've got the balls to do it then by all means give them a dose of their own medicine. I'm sure a lot of people (and rude old people especially) do this kind of thing because no one pulls them up on it.

frannyann

There also some lovely people out there too!
A few years back I was walking with my friend and daughter, when my friend slipped knocking herself onto my daughter and taking both of them into the (thankfully reasonable slow) traffic, I dropped my handbag and all my shopping and rushed into the road to help them. We were overwhelmed with people coming to our aid, including the young lad (in a hoodie) who picked up all my belongings and gave them back to me and young girl who offered to drive us to the local hospital. It was only after we got back from hospital with both of them needing patching up, I realised how many people come to our assistance!