General State of Human Nature

Rolandtheroadie

Over my entire life, i've shown respect, been courteous, made allowancies and generally been mr nice guy. My friends call me horizontal because I'm so laid back.
Why? Where does it get you?
Whats changed. Yesterday I went to Mcdonalds. I went upstairs, found a seat and started getting the kids organised. (2 1 year olds to carry up, a 5 year old and our shopping).
Went up, found a 2 table and a 1 for the 6 of us. getting organised putting the babies in high chairs etc and an old lady comes up with her grand daughter and sits down (no food also before the "get served then sit brigade" gets going).
Thats ok thinks me, with the bench seat, 2 baby seats, we'll all be able to sit and eat.
Goes and get's served (another story) comes back up and theres another lady appeared and between the 3 of them, they've taken over 2 of the 3 tables ensuring we couldnt sit beside them.
So we moved. But this time, I made a big deal of it.
So what do I do from now on? Still be mr nice, or become an ignorant, selfish, self important !!!!!! like a lot of the rest.

gordikin

It's really not that important to be honest.

Rolandtheroadie

gordikin wrote: »

It's really not that important to be honest.

Ah, an ignorant one.

jackieb

Pity them. Don't be like them.

I know it's hard, and of course say something to them, but don't bring yourself down to their level. Don't shout at them because then it'll look to everyone else that you're the unreasonable one. When you're out of earshot, call them every name under the sun if you want, and then let it pass. It's only a seat at McDonalds.

People wind me up all the time. In the car - lots of mad, ignorant people about. People who ignore you as you hold a door open for them. Things like that. If i'm in the car, i'll call them a name. If they ignore me when i'm standing like a numpty holding a door open, i'll say, 'oh that's okay, it's no problem' and hope they feel just a teensy bit bad. But in the end, just let it go. Not good for your blood pressure. Treat others as you'd like to be treated. Don't act like a !!!!!! just because other people do.

dmg24

scotsman4th wrote: »

Ah, an ignorant one.

It looks like you have already taken on your new persona!

globalds

If you think it's worth it ...Fight for it ...
If you think it is a sacrifice worth making to hold yourself true to your principles ...then do that..
Don't moan about it ..And don't make a choice and then regret it ...

glider3560

One thing that gets me is people who sit in reserved seats on trains.

I book in advance to ensure that I get a forward facing table seat, so I can do some work whilst on the train. I also need an aisle seat as my legs are too long to survive being crammed into a window seat for over 2 hours. The booking clerk even knows that I always want seat A23!

So I get on the train and there is someone sat in my seat. I used to just go off and sit somewhere else which doesn't have a fold-down table and not enough space to open my laptop, not wanting to be rude but now I'm fed up with it. I now simply say "excuse me, I have this seat reserved". You get some funny looks and I've only had to threaten someone with getting the guard once, but it always works and perhaps educates people to check to see if the seat is reserved before they sit down.

Rolandtheroadie

dmg24 wrote: »

It looks like you have already taken on your new persona!

Thats my whole point.
I've had my moan and got it off my chest and I'll continue the way I always have. I'd hate my kids to grow up with no respect, being selfish and only thinking of themselves.

Laz123

scotsman4th wrote: »

Thats my whole point.
I've had my moan and got it off my chest and I'll continue the way I always have. I'd hate my kids to grow up with no respect, being selfish and only thinking of themselves.

I'm afraid our society is changing fast, and not for the good. I'm the same as you. Brought up to be respectful of others, raised kids the same way.

Now, I'm not racist, I'm married to a Kenyan. But with all the East Europeans et al coming over to take over the country they bring their bad manners with them. Spitting on pavements, not queuing for buses, taking two seats, not giving a monkey's fart for anyone else.

So is it worth it to keep up the good work only to compete against all that trash?

What is the answer?

DebtHater

scotsman4th wrote: »

I'd hate my kids to grow up with no respect, being selfish and only thinking of themselves.

But, when you think about it, doesnt that sum up the young modern age parent? They all seem to bring their kids up like that these days

I was brought up to have respect and to think of others, but was also told to treat people how they treated me. So if someone was rude, they should expect to get it back, simple as.

Like when I am driving out and about, and I let someone cross or let someone pull out, how many of them dont even bother to acknowledge you! I wouldnt even dream of ignoring someone who let me out!

vyle

The only time I've really got cross enough to do something about rude people was (oddly enough) in a McDonalds.

I'd been queueing for ages, and these spanish students kept trying to barge in in front, so I tapped one on the shoulder and told them that there's a queue. So they moved back and kept mockingly shouting "HEY, QUEUE!"

After a few minutes, they wormed their way back in front of me.

So I waited.

Then just as they started to order, my friends and I shoved them out of the way and made our order. It was so satisfying.