General State of Human Nature

mountainofdebt

Conversely OP here's my story.

On Saturday I went to cross the road and stopped when I realised I'd be walking in front of a car.

Unfortunately as I stopped I sort of skidded and fell. The driver stopped, got out and asked if I was alright. I was, only my pride was severely dented.

He was a young lad of about 20 and I'm not an OAP.

So there are decent people about - we just have to keep bashing at the others until they get the message.

trumpton

There are loads of decent people about. This forum is usually great for people pulling together to expose scammers or give support.

It's hard when people are really crappy to you though and you wonder how some people sleep at night. I think you have to challenge it if it;s safe and appropriate or try to move on and forget about it.

We were on holiday last year and as I was reversing into a gap at a museum carpark, a car appeared and pulled into it. I parked elsewhere but went up to him and said something. He blustered a bit of a mumbled fake apology. Funny thing was, we kept seeing him and his family all day, including them turning up at a very small cafe and having to sit at the table next to us. He looked really uncomfortable.

Karma comes around eventually. The trouble is nowadays you never know if taking someone to task over bad manners will result in getting knifed. Don't be like them though - you have to be a good example to your children. I try to be a decent, honest person because that is how I was brought up. Virtue is it's own reward.

BitterAndTwisted

It's good to see that rude and selfish people are still being remarked upon. This shows that they must be in the minority so the rest of society, the polite and decent ones, are still outnumbering the idiots and morons. Hooray!

Rolandtheroadie

I have to admit, i'm surprised at most of the replies in here too. I expected a lot more like jdturk (and a lot worse lol). How refreshing that I was wrong.

missymugwump

People are becoming more selfish
Its a mememe society sadly

This morning I was queueing in sainsburys at a basket only checkout.
I put my items on the belt put one of those dividers down behind it then managed to drop some coins from my purse
I knelt under the basket end of the belt to retrieve them stood up less than 30 seconds later
To find a man had walked around me shoved my shopping back up the basket end and was paying for his !
I said excuse me I was next I only stooped to pick up my money
He smirked at me and said "got ya" and walked off :eek:
I thought of lots of things to say but thought it best not to as there were children around
How stupid was the check out lady to let him do it though ? I guess they are taught not to get into conflict so just let him get away with it

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

Someone walked in front of DD and myself in the queue at HMV yesterday to get served first. DD got quite indignant, but all I could do is say to her gently 'Sweetie, did you see the size of him? If you start on him, I'm going to have to get involved and you know what happens when I do that. Pick your battles carefully.'

I trained in martial arts, worked in pubs, clubs, probation offices and psychiatric units for sex offenders. I never ever start anything, but I will, if required engage in an appropriate manner. DD has seen me verbally deal with aggressive people on a couple of occasions (and not by shouting/escalating the situation).

As it was, the assistant he went to had a problem with her till, then when he went to leave, the security tag hadn't been deactivated, the alarm went off and he had to return to the till to wait for her to finish with her next customer to see him. Then, as it was the end of legal trading on Sunday, the system held it up even more and, as we left with our purchases, he was standing fuming as she called someone to go and find the manager and they were bringing down the shutters (so he would have had to wait for them to open them again to let him out).

He could still be there now for all I know

I didn't want to wade in because it was late and it really wasn't that important that he went in front, bearing in mind that he walked in front rather than pushing her out of the way (which would have resulted in a different reaction from me).

Pick your battles - a seat in McD's isn't the most important thing to fight over and it's a waste of adrenalin which just gets you feeling bad without a release. It's not right, but it happens.

Takoda

I think that the environment has a lot to do with how the people in it behave.

I very seldom go to MacDonalds - usually only when pushed for time and 'real food' is not an option.

On the odd occasion when I am there I expect the following to happen

1) I do not expect the till person to listen when I give my full order. They are inattentive and you always have to repeat some of it even when it is really simple.

2) I do not expect them to serve me quickly. Despite burgers and the like being 'fast food' the fast bit doesn't apply to the service.

3) I do not expect the food to be hot. If it is - great - but more often than not it isn't.

4) I do not expect the dining experience to be a pleasant one. Parents seem to think that everyone likes their child/ren running around screaming and shouting,standing on chairs and tables. I am often quite glad to finish my food and escape.

5) I know that someone will come and sweep around near my table while I am still there. They also scrape the incredibly noisy chairs and deafen me.

6) I also expect 85% of the clientele to be chavvy, loud, obnoxious, sweary, foul people without any manners or any respect for others.

Now I know all or at least most of these things will happen when I walk in that door. That's why going there is a last resort.

Therefore I don't post threads on here complaining about it because the above is just something you have to put up with if you choose to eat at the Golden Arches.

I know that if I choose to eat in a decent restaurant I will have an altogether different dining experience. That's why McDs is always a last resort.

So I guess my point is that you have to moderate your expectations to match the standard of your dining choice.

Nukumai

Laz123 wrote: »

Now, I'm not racist

Perhaps not. But you might like to look up the definition of 'bigot'.

Laz123 wrote: »

But with all the East Europeans et al coming over to take over the country they bring their bad manners with them. Spitting on pavements, not queuing for buses, taking two seats, not giving a monkey's fart for anyone else.

I commute, daily, from my home in the suburbs to central London every day. I, too, incessantly see the types of behaviour you describe - on buses, tubes, and trains. But, I can assure you, the kids exhibiting this behaviour are not "all the East Europeans". There has hardly ever been an occasion to give me the impression that they were anything other than British kids.

Equaliser123

Nukumai wrote: »

Perhaps not. But you might like to look up the definition of 'bigot'.



I commute, daily, from my home in the suburbs to central London every day. I, too, incessantly see the types of behaviour you describe - on buses, tubes, and trains. But, I can assure you, the kids exhibiting this behaviour are not "all the East Europeans". There has hardly ever been an occasion to give me the impression that they were anything other than British kids.

People talking and having a view about immigration does not equal either bigotry or racism.

I really wish people would stop playing that card.

Laz123

Nukumai wrote: »

Perhaps not. But you might like to look up the definition of 'bigot'.



I commute, daily, from my home in the suburbs to central London every day. I, too, incessantly see the types of behaviour you describe - on buses, tubes, and trains. But, I can assure you, the kids exhibiting this behaviour are not "all the East Europeans". There has hardly ever been an occasion to give me the impression that they were anything other than British kids.

You're not Gordon Brown, are you?