Ireland to demolish brand new ‘unwanted’ homes

LydiaJ

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Interesting figures.

How I keep hearing from Cameron (sure I heard it on the debate the other night as well) that we're the most overcrowded nation in Europe?
We're about the same as Germany and way behind the Netherlands and Belgium.

Cameron may have been thinking of England, which has a much higher population density than the UK as a whole. According to Wikipedia:

Compared to England's 383 inhabitants per square kilometre (990 /sq mi), the corresponding figures were 142 /km2 (370 /sq mi) for Wales, 125 /km2 (320 /sq mi) for Northern Ireland and just 65 /km2 (170 /sq mi) for Scotland in mid-2003

That puts England nearly as dense as the Netherlands, with no other European countries anywhere near that, apart from Malta and city states like Monaco and the Vatican.

ETA Apparently England overtook the Netherlands in 2008 according to this article from the Telegraph.

In 2008 the average number of people per square kilometre in Britain was 253, rising to 395 in England.
Latest figures from Holland show that its population density was 395 a square kilometre in 2002 and 393 in 2005. It is estimated that English population density will rise to 464 people for every square kilometre by 2031.
The population density in England is already almost double the level in Germany and quadruple that in France.
The only country in the European Union with greater crowding is the tiny island of Malta, which only has 400,000 people, most of whom live around the port of Valletta.
England has taken its position as the most crowded country in Europe at a point when the risk of economic recession has led to growing concerns over diminishing numbers of jobs and pressure on public services.

Degenerate

I found this map of regional population density quite enlightening:

Pobby

Degenerate wrote: »

I found this map of regional population density quite enlightening:

So do I. Quite surprised.

benb76

It seems that the Irish devopers have built homes for approximately 1.2 million people that don't actually exist, which is over 25% of the population! This makes a mockery of anyone trying to compare the UK housing market with the Irish one.

PasturesNew

sjaypink wrote: »

BTW, £185K apparantly.

If I was looking for a holiday home Id buy one
£185k would only get you a tiny one bed cottage in cornwall And probably quicker for your average Londoner to get to 50miles South of Dublin than to Cornwall. This is the answer, they just need to build a few beaches, an eden dome thing, and recruit some hostile yokels, market to second home buyers. job done

Not any longer. Prices have fallen. I was looking at Port Isaac earlier (75-80% 2nd homes and holiday homes), lovely little cottage for £249k near the front. Big price drops all round.

Elsewhere too. Lots of choice. Lots of drops. Not much shifting.

Chummy at the Eden's building some eco !!!!!! stuff. Holiday lodges I think (from memory).

PasturesNew

sjaypink wrote: »

Phew, does that mean Newquays not 'cool' anymore?

Good. Cos I'm after a 5 day tour mid-August

It's still cool... whole house has just been woken up by the holiday let next door. Doors banging and singing...

Oh ... and back door wide open now and they've got blokes in... dirty hen night sh4ggers!!!

PasturesNew

MrsE wrote: »

Furthest SW I've been is Somerset:o

There's still another 120-150+ miles beyond that!

PasturesNew

Those density figures though are comparing people against acreage/hectares. If you deduct all the farmland (where people don't go) it'd show a different picture.

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

Have they sold now...in the main?

RM Thamesmead, 390 for sale. Cheap as chips a lot of them.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?searchType=SALE&locationIdentifier=REGION^85472&insId=1&radius=0.0&displayPropertyType=&minBedrooms=&maxBedrooms=&minPrice=&maxPrice=&retirement=&partBuyPartRent=&maxDaysSinceAdded=&includeSSTC=true&_includeSSTC=on&x=15&y=7&sortByPriceDescending=false&primaryDisplayPropertyType=&secondaryDisplayPropertyType=&oldDisplayPropertyType=&oldPrimaryDisplayPropertyType=&newHome=&auction=false

benb76

PasturesNew wrote: »

Those density figures though are comparing people against acreage/hectares. If you deduct all the farmland (where people don't go) it'd show a different picture.

Why discount farmland?