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MSE Parents Club Part 12

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  • musogirl295
    musogirl295 Posts: 945 Forumite
    Thanks guys!

    I'm breastfeeding at the moment and finding it quite a challenge. We're going to have to move to expressing in the near future as I'm due to do a couple of days work in July. When's too soon to start expressing for DH to feed her? It would be nice if we could split the night time feeds between us .
  • tarajayne wrote: »
    Do you think that some who have disabilities that can't be helped with aids, may be bitter of thoses who have ones that can? Or that some just don't see their disability as an issue at all? Or a bit of both types of people? I just think as a society we put people into groups too much with makes problems like this, this was why I never wanted DS1 in a special school. Wouldn't we see disabled people in a different light if they were all in mainstream school as we grew up, so we all grew up together so it was all the norm rather than as it is now where I can take Ben out, just an example, and he asks why someone is in a wheelchair, or why someone can't see? Dunno, just thinking out loud.

    I think it is hard to understand but from what I could gather (and I was young and naive at the time LOL) lots of deaf people don't see it as a disability at all. They don't feel disadvantaged, they feel that it is an advantage and they wouldn't want to hear even if they were given the opportunity. One woman told me about her fear of having a hearing child and her relief when her child was deaf.

    You would have to ask SS about the psychology of it all but the people that I talked to didn't appear bitter, quite the opposite.

    I am not sure about schooling...of course I want society to be more accepting of all kinds of people but I also want the needs of everybody to be addressed appropriately and I am not sure that it can always be done in a mainstream system where we (as a society) tend to go for a 'one size fits all' approach...our current system can't always cope with the differing abilities within it.

    For example, I can see an argument for classes based on ability rather than age - so you progress when you are ready rather than when you should be ready... *doesn't know where she is going with this* ...but our society doesn't work like that currently.
    r.mac wrote: »
    please listen to MFD - she is a wise woman :D
    Proud Mummy to the gorgeous Benjamin John born 14 March 2009, 8lbs 14oz
    A new little seedling on the way, due 30 September 2012
  • SusanC_2
    SusanC_2 Posts: 5,344 Forumite
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    BeenieCat wrote: »
    One thing though, am i not allowed to use Oxo cubes? Or Bisto? Cos i can't do gravy without bisto lol! I'm a bit freaked out by some stuff i've been reading about kids dying of salt overdose, one story said they had porridge a lot and mash with gravy and died :eek:.
    I'm sure regular gravy is fine as long as you're not feeding her Annabel Karmel lasagne all the time or something but if you want to make your own stock and have a slow cooker, it's really easy. If you have a roast chicken. you just stick all the bones in, cover them with water, add a slosh of vinegar and then leave it on low overnight. The next day you strain it and you've got chicken stock. You can do it on the hob but then you have to pay more attention which is why I do it in the slow cooker.
    Evansangel wrote: »
    Wedding is Saturday! Eek! Having some trouble with my mum telling me to invite people but when i asked about them when doing the invites she said not to invite them.

    I called my dad crying and he phoned her to tell her its my wedding and to stop spoiling it for me.

    And i found out the reason she's not paying for the food anymore. Because i wanted to choose the food.
    Her attitude is, if shes paying she chooses it all and i get no say... (in my own wedding buffett)

    OH has a few allergies so i have to choose the food otherwise she would get stuff he is allergic to and not care.
    :eek: My mum might stalk me on eBay but at least she left me to do what I wanted with my wedding.
    redmel1621 wrote: »
    My dad didn't even come to my wedding meal once we got back from Cyprus.....Not that I really care that much, just shows what kind of person he was!
    My dad didn't come to my wedding which meant I could ask my brother to give me away which would have been a bit awkward if my dad had actually come.
    csh wrote: »
    When OH and I eventually get round to getting married the first most people will know of it will be the invites going out. The 'rents will be told when everything is booked!
    That's actually how most people found out that we were engaged although it wasn't deliberate - it was just that we sent the invitations out within a fortnight because it was easier than announcing it and then sending invitations. My cousin and her husband just invited their parents out for a meal and then told them they were actually getting married and went to the registry office - that's what I would have done if I'd only wanted a little wedding.
    tiamai_d wrote: »
    In my head it's like the physically disabled community saying get out because you use a splint/prosthetic/wheelchair/go to physio etc.
    That's why I find the reaction incomprehnsible too.
    tarajayne wrote: »
    I just think as a society we put people into groups too much with makes problems like this, this was why I never wanted DS1 in a special school. Wouldn't we see disabled people in a different light if they were all in mainstream school as we grew up, so we all grew up together so it was all the norm rather than as it is now where I can take Ben out, just an example, and he asks why someone is in a wheelchair, or why someone can't see? Dunno, just thinking out loud.
    I agree. Special schools do have their place but shouldn't be the default response to anyone with any kind of disability. I also think it would be better to have special schools as units attached to a mainstream school rather than being completely separate.
    Any question, comment or opinion is not intended to be criticism of anyone else.
    2 Samuel 12:23 Romans 8:28 Psalm 30:5
    "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die"
  • Thanks guys!

    I'm breastfeeding at the moment and finding it quite a challenge. We're going to have to move to expressing in the near future as I'm due to do a couple of days work in July. When's too soon to start expressing for DH to feed her? It would be nice if we could split the night time feeds between us .

    I would say as soon as BF has settled down a bit (ie latching is easy for both of you and you feel that feeds are 'effective') then you can look to begin expressing. I think we started at about 3 weeks. But there is no hard and fast rule!!

    BF is a challenge :), it is hard work at the beginning but it is worth it!! After a while you will be doing it without thinking about it!


    Have you tried laying down to feed? It is the way forward for nighttime feeds because you get to rest at the same time.
    r.mac wrote: »
    please listen to MFD - she is a wise woman :D
    Proud Mummy to the gorgeous Benjamin John born 14 March 2009, 8lbs 14oz
    A new little seedling on the way, due 30 September 2012
  • searching_me
    searching_me Posts: 18,414 Forumite
    hello :hello: everyone ... been busy this morning .. driving lesson, gym then shopping with my 2 main men :D ...

    how are you all? .. really missing madam :( want her home now x
    :)Still searching .....:)
  • tarajayne
    tarajayne Posts: 7,081 Forumite
    SusanC wrote: »
    I agree. Special schools do have their place but shouldn't be the default response to anyone with any kind of disability. I also think it would be better to have special schools as units attached to a mainstream school rather than being completely separate.

    That's what I was trying to say, thanks. :o Just couldn't think of how I wanted to say it. Of course our schools couldn't cope but this would be much better. But it won't happen. :( And our school has mixed classes, rather than just straight year groups. They are mixed by ability. :)
    Too many children, too little time!!!
    :p
  • Natalie85
    Natalie85 Posts: 243 Forumite
    OMG :eek:

    A has been trying to push up on her knees for last few days, she puts her hands on couch and kneels up, i just turned round and she was looking at me, leaning on the couch, STOOD UP :eek:
  • tarajayne
    tarajayne Posts: 7,081 Forumite
    Hi SM, haven't replied to your text, just remembered, sorry.
    Too many children, too little time!!!
    :p
  • tarajayne
    tarajayne Posts: 7,081 Forumite
    Natalie85 wrote: »
    OMG :eek:

    A has been trying to push up on her knees for last few days, she puts her hands on couch and kneels up, i just turned round and she was looking at me, leaning on the couch, STOOD UP :eek:

    :j:j:j And she's off! :rotfl:
    Too many children, too little time!!!
    :p
  • tiamai_d
    tiamai_d Posts: 11,987 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    tarajayne wrote: »
    Do you think that some who have disabilities that can't be helped with aids, may be bitter of thoses who have ones that can? Or that some just don't see their disability as an issue at all? Or a bit of both types of people? I just think as a society we put people into groups too much with makes problems like this, this was why I never wanted DS1 in a special school. Wouldn't we see disabled people in a different light if they were all in mainstream school as we grew up, so we all grew up together so it was all the norm rather than as it is now where I can take Ben out, just an example, and he asks why someone is in a wheelchair, or why someone can't see? Dunno, just thinking out loud.

    Which is why Christophers school is so perfect! A special needs school within a mainstream school. It's main aim to to cater to those children who would do well in a mainstream school if they had the help they needed. It doesn't cater to children needing specialist care, but is more for our children who are very in the grey area of not quite fitting into mainstream or special schools.

    I really think there should be one in each primary school. Mainstream kids can come in for some extra help too and it is very much encouraged that the kids are all mixed at break times.

    My mate has a friend who works in a nursing home close by where the kids from that primary school go for visits. And he said that when they come in he can't tell which are from the unit and which are from the mainstream, they are all mixed together and having fun.



    What I was trying to say was that these opinions are quite common amongst deaf society - not that anyone has a right to judge or say what is right or wrong - in my experience I would say I am not surprised at the comments or the strength of them :( It does make me sad though.

    I know what you were saying and I wasn't having a go, I had just never came across those feelings before.
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