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  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
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    stugib wrote: »
    You're getting bloody tiresome turning every iPhone related thread into a "here's why it's not as good as a Palm" rant.

    The video capture thing has already been discussed - Palm had the video encoding hardware already in the Pre but rushed out the OS which meant they could update the OS to support it later. The 3G didn't have the processing power to support full video capture. No amount of OS updates could change that. No conspiracy. Third party apps can support video on the 3G but only at a smaller resolution and frame rate.

    You still don't get it - you can list all the technical things it can't do compared to other phones, or why Apple are big bad bullies until you're blue in the face but no other phone has matched the number one attribute to make any product a success.....desirability.

    No need to list all, FM radio (not all local stations are avaialble via the web)
    Xenon flash for the camera (not everybody wants to walk around with several devices)
    What does the iphone do that other phones can't?
    Obviously it is the best for you, but it's not the best for everybody, by trying to spout it is the one hat fits all is part of brainwashing :o
  • nsabournemouth
    nsabournemouth Posts: 2,042 Forumite
    stugib wrote: »
    You're getting bloody tiresome turning every iPhone related thread into a "here's why it's not as good as a Palm" rant.

    The video capture thing has already been discussed - Palm had the video encoding hardware already in the Pre but rushed out the OS which meant they could update the OS to support it later. The 3G didn't have the processing power to support full video capture. No amount of OS updates could change that. No conspiracy. Third party apps can support video on the 3G but only at a smaller resolution and frame rate.

    You still don't get it - you can list all the technical things it can't do compared to other phones, or why Apple are big bad bullies until you're blue in the face but no other phone has matched the number one attribute to make any product a success.....desirability.


    Say what i bloody like pal. Its not a rant, sometimes you iPhone users need bringing back down to Earth. If it does it for you, great but we're not all sucked in to the Apple way of life.
  • robt_2
    robt_2 Posts: 3,401 Forumite
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    Say what i bloody like pal. Its not a rant, sometimes you iPhone users need bringing back down to Earth. If it does it for you, great but we're not all sucked in to the Apple way of life.

    You are worse than any iPhone fanboy.

    And they can say 'what they bloody want' too. Get over it.

    It is fascinating how obsessed people can get over each others phones and then judge them because of it. It is also quite sad. Do you have too much free time? You could install some apps and games on your choice of phone to pass it.
  • stugib
    stugib Posts: 2,602 Forumite
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    edited 21 April 2010 at 1:59AM
    DUTR wrote: »
    Obviously it is the best for you, but it's not the best for everybody, by trying to spout it is the one hat fits all is part of brainwashing :o
    I'm not looking to convince or brainwash anyone, it's just a phone, different people have different needs and things that appeal to them. I deliberated for months between an iPhone and an Android based phone. I like what I've got but I can see me moving to Android in a couple of years if things continue along the same trend. If a BB/Pre/Android phone suits others then great, enjoy it. It's just sodding tedious that a thread can't mention the iPhone without it being hijacked by the "my phone's better than yours" rubbish.
    Say what i bloody like pal. Its not a rant, sometimes you iPhone users need bringing back down to Earth. If it does it for you, great but we're not all sucked in to the Apple way of life.
    As post above says, you're the most guilty of classic fanboy behaviour you accuse iPhone users of, though you don't seem such a fan on this Pre site:

    Since paid apps i have not downloaded a single app free or paid. Just a load of rubbish. The games look good but i don't want games.
    Out of 149,000 that Apple have there are ones much better than we are getting. The selection of apps with the build issues of the Pre are sure to help Apple and their sale surge. You can't even get Ebay to write an app and where is Skype. WebOS has girls in swimsuits, Go To Tool apps and other pretty useless stuff and i can't believe that some want people to pay fro some of this crap.
    It should be renamed 'The Crapalog'
    I was in London with a friend who has an iPhone. After Planning our journey around on bus and tube we decided to see what films we could watch. Decided what film to see, booked the tickets and then looked at the bus and tube times to fit in after all on his phone. The !!!! then went and downloaded a few songs and all i could think was....my phone can multi task...thats about it. Its not enough to say that WebOS can multi task anymore, that is not enough to bring people to buy it. Apps and a decent build phone is the order of the day but i am sure that Palm are aware of that...................?
    You silly boy, i'm in the UK and i can not do any of what can be done on the iPhone and are you saying that the WebOS apps are better than what you will find on the iPhone?
    To say that the WebOS app store is anywhere near as good as Apples is silly. Its not and i doubt it ever will be with devs staying clear. Games will not save Palm, decent phone and an app store that gives people what they want will.
    Devs won't risk the money in getting the rights to information and / or paying someone to write and then the time and effort creating the app so it is left to the end user to create apps that aren't that well put together in some cases and are just re packaged internet searches. W edont mean to offend you by saying that the app cat is a pile of junk.
    I agree. The apps for WebOS are very poor.
    apps such as:
    Train Journey planner
    Traffic update
    London Tube app
    Skype
    Office suite app
    Banking apps
    Apps like you can get on the iPhone where you can book cinema tickets and the like
    As normal most of the apps are non productive and pretty useless to the majority of users and games seem to be the order of the day and i very much doubt people will by a Pre or Pixi just because it plays games. Apps help to sell phones, Palm phones can't offer that as it stands.
    The things stopping Palm from making its comeback are the build quality and the big lack of applications that can rival other platforms.

    Or here

    Havent bought anything. Was expecting a 'flood' of productive apps but its just a load of rubbish.
    Indeed. I want to see UK travel apps (London Tube app, Train journey planner etc etc ) or i too will consider moving. Its one thing to have a phone that isn't built well but then to not have the productivity you need is another.

    Or a whole 'disillusioned with Palm Pre' thread here: http://discussion.treocentral.com/web-os-development/238539-disillusioned-my-palm-pre.html

    Maybe it's a different nsabournemouth that uses a Pre, otherwise it'd be a bit disingenuous trying to convince people on a moneysaving website to part with their cash to buy a Pre when you evidently don't think much of it? Or maybe you just like trolling about mobiles....
  • nsabournemouth
    nsabournemouth Posts: 2,042 Forumite
    stugib wrote: »
    I'm not looking to convince or brainwash anyone, it's just a phone, different people have different needs and things that appeal to them. I deliberated for months between an iPhone and an Android based phone. I like what I've got but I can see me moving to Android in a couple of years if things continue along the same trend. If a BB/Pre/Android phone suits others then great, enjoy it. It's just sodding tedious that a thread can't mention the iPhone without it being hijacked by the "my phone's better than yours" rubbish.


    As post above says, you're the most guilty of classic fanboy behaviour you accuse iPhone users of, though you don't seem such a fan on this Pre site:


















    Or here





    Or a whole 'disillusioned with Palm Pre' thread here: http://discussion.treocentral.com/web-os-development/238539-disillusioned-my-palm-pre.html

    Maybe it's a different nsabournemouth that uses a Pre, otherwise it'd be a bit disingenuous trying to convince people on a moneysaving website to part with their cash to buy a Pre when you evidently don't think much of it? Or maybe you just like trolling about mobiles....

    First if you can explain what trolling is, i'm not that up with computer speak and second, i did want to have the Xbox Live Gamertag and live.co.uk email address of nsabournemouth but it had already gone, and i can say that this is the only forum i visit as as mobile phone 'trolling' isn't my thing, whatever that is.
  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
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    stugib wrote: »
    I'm not looking to convince or brainwash anyone, it's just a phone, different people have different needs and things that appeal to them. I deliberated for months between an iPhone and an Android based phone. I like what I've got but I can see me moving to Android in a couple of years if things continue along the same trend. If a BB/Pre/Android phone suits others then great, enjoy it. It's just sodding tedious that a thread can't mention the iPhone without it being hijacked by the "my phone's better than yours" rubbish.


    I agree, just that I do notice from some posters that when they mention the iphone, there is a tendancy that they are saying it is the best and no other should be considered, and what it fails at does not matter, if someone has never had a pda then I can understand why they would be excited over the iphone or any other smartphone. It's not just this forum , someone asked about a satnav, one reply was if you have an iphone then.... seemed to conveniently forget that any gps enabled smartphone has turn by turn apps for them too.
    Me .... my palm tungsten2 is seeing better days, I may replace it with a ipod touch but that is only because there seems to be little left in the pda world nowadays :o
  • robt_2
    robt_2 Posts: 3,401 Forumite
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    stugib wrote: »
    As post above says, you're the most guilty of classic fanboy behaviour you accuse iPhone users of, though you don't seem such a fan on this Pre site:

    Or here

    Or a whole 'disillusioned with Palm Pre' thread here: http://discussion.treocentral.com/web-os-development/238539-disillusioned-my-palm-pre.html

    Maybe it's a different nsabournemouth that uses a Pre, otherwise it'd be a bit disingenuous trying to convince people on a moneysaving website to part with their cash to buy a Pre when you evidently don't think much of it? Or maybe you just like trolling about mobiles....

    I think we can safely say that they have been busted as someone who is just trying to cause arguments - despite what they claim. Maybe one for the ignore list.
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