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British Gas- end of 5 year deal

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  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,060 Forumite
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    funnyguy wrote: »
    I have also joined websaver 7. [which is 34% higher than the 5 year deal we were on...Didn,t we do well over these 5 years?,

    Attractive as the tariff was, I don't think websaver 7 is 34% more expensive that the BG April 2010 deal(which I also was on)

    For instance for the UK average consumption(20,500kWh gas and 3.300kWh electricity) for my area you would have been paying £739 and now Websaver7 is £900 so 21.8% more expensive.

    For my heavy usage, Websaver 7 is 19.7% more.
  • funnyguy
    funnyguy Posts: 2,561 Forumite
    i,m just going by what the bg website said it was
  • alexani
    alexani Posts: 8 Forumite
    many thanks to all who responded to my thread- this is probably the first time in my life that i have really took the bull by the horns and checked out all the prices. If there was a degree in knowing prices per unit from different suppliers i think i have just graduated. Anyway- thanks to this forum, it put me onto OVO energy who i have just signed upto on their New energy fixed tarriff- (fixed for 1 year from transfer)- it will basically be supplying my gas and elec at about the same rates that i was on with my 5 year fixed deal. Only 12 months fixed but at lease it gets me through another winter.

    cheers

    Ian
  • Joyful
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    Just thought I would mention to anyone coming off PP2010 and transferring to Websaver7 via the BG website that if it asks are you on PP 2010 say NO. There is a blip and it tries to charge a termination fee incorrectly if you say yes.
    Self Employed, Running my Dream Jobs
  • Pincher
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    Cardew wrote: »
    Anyway I have just had a call from another OVO employee who has informed me that they do have a 'work around' so it seems I am OVO bound


    Just curious how this workaround works.
    Are they going to hire an accounts engineer who is qualified to add two numbers together? It'll never work, so technically challenging. :rotfl:
  • KimYeovil
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    The reluctance to allow a customer to add two E7 readings together to receive a regular tariff is nothing to do with having to employ higher grade data entry clerks.

    It is, surely, just to stop customers jumping on and off E7 tariffs as the season fits. The tariffs are priced to accommodate a full year's use.

    Although they may, on occasion, let a customer add the reads together, it is important that this is not an obligation.
  • Pincher
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    KimYeovil wrote: »
    The reluctance to allow a customer to add two E7 readings together to receive a regular tariff is nothing to do with having to employ higher grade data entry clerks.

    It is, surely, just to stop customers jumping on and off E7 tariffs as the season fits. The tariffs are priced to accommodate a full year's use.

    Although they may, on occasion, let a customer add the reads together, it is important that this is not an obligation.

    What about Economy 7 is simply more profitable, due to higher day time rate, so compel customers with E7 meters to stay on it, until they threaten to leave, and then use customer retention to offer a "workaround".

    An interesting symbiotic arrangement is to connect with your semi-detached neighbour, so that one of you is on Economy 7,
    and the other one on standard. A timer switch would connect to the lowest rate electricity at any given time for both households. Each semi would have two secondary meters, to record actual consumption by each. Each household would pay its supplier as normal, and then make an adjusting payment every quarter when the statements turn up. Obviously one semi will choose the supplier with the lowest night time rate, and the other will choose the lowest stanard rate supplier. The best of both worlds.

    I know, the semi with the standard rate is always the one risking default by the neighbour, but this can be managed by a deposit.

    It won't last, of course. The Economy 7 supplier will see your consumption is 100% night time, and change the "faulty" meter.
    The engineer will then report your arrangement to the supplier.
    I predict they will use selling on electricity without a license as an excuse, because they have no say in what you do with the electricity from the supply meter onwards.

    A variation on this theme is: two semis using one supply account, so only one standing charge. It's like one household only ever pays Tier 2 rate!
  • robbies_gal
    robbies_gal Posts: 7,895 Forumite
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    can anyone tell me if i can leave my fixed till 2012 deal for free

    my letter on the back says no charge if its before may(2010) but does that mean if i tell them im leaving or it all has to be switched over by then i dont want to go ahead then be lumbered with a 70 pounds bill
    What goes around-comes around
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,060 Forumite
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    Pincher wrote: »
    Just curious how this workaround works.
    Are they going to hire an accounts engineer who is qualified to add two numbers together? It'll never work, so technically challenging. :rotfl:

    Sadly in these days of totally dependance on the computer, it is a question of getting a algorithm to cater for both readings rather than someone with basic arithmetic skills.

    My BG bill shows both meter readings, the total on each eachrmeter, the average in the period for both added together and the total price.

    When the BG computer system is working well(not a frequent occurance) I can send in the readings on-line and almost immediately get the bill using those readings.

    BG had a real problem catering for my system when they moved to the new computer system, which is surprising because there must be many thousands like myself i.e. E& meter but on a 'normal' 24/7 tariff.
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,060 Forumite
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    gabbyevs wrote: »
    can anyone tell me if i can leave my fixed till 2012 deal for free

    my letter on the back says no charge if its before may(2010) but does that mean if i tell them im leaving or it all has to be switched over by then i dont want to go ahead then be lumbered with a 70 pounds bill

    If you intend to stay with BG on another tariff you just need to tell them and they will switch you immediately without penalty.

    If you intend to move to another company, then tell them now and you won't pay a penalty for leaving and they will put you on their Standard tariff untill you leave.
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