For those planning to watch the leadership debate...

lostinrates

samhuzz wrote: »

Oh no, not another smug !!!!!! like Blair! Really really couldn't stand him! Even prefer Brown to him and that's saying something! And his wife, OMG :eek:

I quite like all the wives. I think Sarah Brown is very dignified.

They are, I guess, in the main quite smug...sme just have unfortunate faces.

this botox thing, I though a brow couldn't furrow with it and thingy wahtsit...cameron's, did. If your brow can furrow I do NOT want botox. So, can your brow furrow or not?

chucky

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Chucky, one of those comments are mine.

Clegg won that TV debate in terms of how they put themselves across. That is all that was meant.

it doesn't matter who's it was - that's why I didn't leave the person in the quote.

Clegg came across better than Brown and Cameron, Cameron came across better than Brown.

if people decide the way they vote because of these live debates - the future isn't going to be too great

chewmylegoff

Graham_Devon wrote: »

That's my point. Hence why Cameron will always have come last.

Clegg will always have come first, even the news stated this before the show, because he's got the chance to actually say something, and he's detached from the "usual suspects".

why? don't tory activists know how to use mobile phones?

that clegg cliche would work better if he had actually done that rather than talked the same cack as the other two.

lostinrates

chucky wrote: »

it doesn't matter who's it was - that's why I didn't leave the person in the quote.

Clegg came across better than Brown and Cameron, Cameron came across better than Brown.

if people decide the way they vote because of these live debates - the future isn't going to be too great

Agreed, agreed. but if people get interested and start reading the bumf that comes through the doors, and know who local candidates are etc then it could be better!

samhuzz

lostinrates wrote: »

I quite like all the wives. I think Sarah Brown is very dignified.

They are, I guess, in the main quite smug...sme just have unfortunate faces.

this botox thing, I though a brow couldn't furrow with it and thingy wahtsit...cameron's, did. If your brow can furrow I do NOT want botox. So, can your brow furrow or not?

Oh I didn't mean Brown's wife, I don't remember what she looks like, I meant old letterbox gob, Cherie. I thought when you had botox you had no facial expressions at all like Dani Minogue, or is that just when you have too much?

Graham_Devon

So the actual results are Clegg, Cameron, Brown.

Something weird going on with that ITV internet poll as Brown made an immense comeback in 10 mins!!

chewmylegoff

activists are obviously targeting different polls - labour obviously chose the ITV internet one.

sammyjammy

Surprisingly I enjoyed it, the time went very quickly. I didn't, disappointingly learn anything new though which made it a bit of a waste of time.

I just undertook a Political compass test online which told me I'm a Liberal Lefty (alongside the Ghandi, the Dalai Lama and Nelson Mandela) whereas our esteemed leader (hey where has the sarcasm smiley gone?) is the exact opposite alongside Hitler.

I'll leave it there

lostinrates

samhuzz wrote: »

Oh I didn't mean Brown's wife, I don't remember what she looks like, I meant old letterbox gob, Cherie. I thought when you had botox you had no facial expressions at all like Dani Minogue, or is that just when you have too much?

I used to watch Cherie a bit sitting as Recorder in Snaresbrook- I think. Interesting, it was.

i think the very sad thing is what the Blairs seem to have shown themselves to be now. There was a chance people that didn't like them were wrong....and then....

gallygirl

lostinrates wrote: »

I think thats quite frustrating tbh. I would agree he has a very smug look, but then, so did Blair!

I think to vote on policies, whoever you agree with, is much better than voting on looks and smarm.

I totally agree with you - I am surprised (& somewhat ashamed) at how shallow I am . I think tbh it's because I don't really agree with enough of their policies. I think Labour actually handled the economic crisis quite well (we could argue for ever about how much they were to blame, but I do remember the Tories saying there was too much regulation.......). I also think now is not the time to cut spending. So that part of me wants to vote Labour - but I don't like a lot of their other policies. But don't like Tories or Lib Dems either. Don't like my Labour MP for many reasons (including the expenses) - but don't like Torty candidiate either. No idea who the LibDem candidate is.

TBH it doesn't matter who I vote for. I'm in a marginal Labour seat and the Tories are odds on to take it.