For those planning to watch the leadership debate...

lostinrates

gallygirl wrote: »

I totally agree with you - I am surprised (& somewhat ashamed) at how shallow I am . I think tbh it's because I don't really agree with enough of their policies. I think Labour actually handled the economic crisis quite well (we could argue for ever about how much they were to blame, but I do remember the Tories saying there was too much regulation.......). I also think now is not the time to cut spending. So that part of me wants to vote Labour - but I don't like a lot of their other policies. But don't like Tories or Lib Dems either. Don't like my Labour MP for many reasons (including the expenses) - but don't like Torty candidiate either. No idea who the LibDem candidate is.

TBH it doesn't matter who I vote for. I'm in a marginal Labour seat and the Tories are odds on to take it.

do the questionnaires.

i do not think they are infallible, but reading the policies and thinking about them, without the name of the party there, or looking at your ideaology with out the party politics, both are very useful IMO.

ninky_2

do polls actually influence how people vote. i mean, why would activists want to skew the outcome of a poll. surely it's more useful to know the genuine outcome? or is there some sort of sheep mentality where people vote for whoever is perceived to be in the lead? i just don't understand that.

fc123

lostinrates wrote: »

I quite like all the wives. I think Sarah Brown is very dignified.

They are, I guess, in the main quite smug...sme just have unfortunate faces.

this botox thing, I though a brow couldn't furrow with it and thingy wahtsit...cameron's, did. If your brow can furrow I do NOT want botox. So, can your brow furrow or not?

Yes..... it can it depends where the injection is put so you can have frozen brow but eyebrows can lift...most common choice but you can get a bit of that thick forehead look inbetween the eyes...a touch neanderthal. Like Sarah Fergusson.

GB and Cameron have both had a light jab...I am 99% sure.....and GB has a bit of filler too.

I watched the second half of this and it's so so so...I can't think.
My old dad is out canvassing (despite his deafness so he can only hear male pitch) as he goes with someone. My dear parents turned me off politics a bit I am afraid.

The whole 'My kid goes to state school so I am at one with you all ''winds me up TBH. But on the whole, Cameron was pretty slick and I would trust him to do the right thing for the country as GB comes over to me as someone who dopes the right thing for his career and how he will go down in the history books....just MHO.
Clegg...lacked depth a bit but I wouldn't mind having a lib dem govt to see how they fare but it's unlikely to happen.

tomstickland

Just looked at the Mail.

A YouGov poll and the Mail Online's own survey both had Mr Clegg as the victor after the 90-minute showdown.
The YouGov survey put the Lib Dem leader as the runaway winner on 51 per cent, with David Cameron next on 29 and Gordon Brown trailing on 19.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1266285/Leaders-debate-LIVE-Historic-Brown-Cameron-Clegg-lock-horns.html#ixzz0lCv18bqP

Rochdale_Pioneers

Clegg walked it. brown better than expected, Cameron worse

samhuzz

sammyjammy wrote: »

I just undertook a Political compass test online which told me I'm a Liberal Lefty (alongside the Ghandi, the Dalai Lama and Nelson Mandela) whereas our esteemed leader (hey where has the sarcasm smiley gone?) is the exact opposite alongside Hitler.

I'll leave it there

I'm in more or less the same place as the Pope on their chart, get me!

chewmylegoff

ninky wrote: »

do polls actually influence how people vote. i mean, why would activists want to skew the outcome of a poll. surely it's more useful to know the genuine outcome? or is there some sort of sheep mentality where people vote for whoever is perceived to be in the lead? i just don't understand that.

i would have thought it would have an effect on each leaders credibility.

in general i would have thought the vast majority of people voting in these polls are 'motivated' in some way. knowing some party activists and how their mind works i cannot see them not trying to rig polls for this sort of thing.

i can't believe the ITV poll suddenly swung massively in favour of GB because of what he said in the debate.

kennyboy66_2

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

Clegg walked it. brown better than expected, Cameron worse

Exactly what I thought, although I wonder if this is coloured by me thinking that Cameron would do well and Brown would do poorly.

kennyboy66_2

tomstickland wrote: »

Just looked at the Mail.

Cameron would be worried if in a Mail poll he was only 10 points better than Brown.

Graham_Devon

chewmylegoff wrote: »

i can't believe the ITV poll suddenly swung massively in favour of GB because of what he said in the debate.

Just clicked again, and Brown is now losing all the gains he made 10 mins later.

Bizzare. Back down to 34% when I checked a couple of mins ago, with Clegg back way out in front.

The daily mail poll however, puts Brown well below any other poll, at just 15%.

Every poll says something wildly different!

Edit: Just looked at the comments coming in on the ITV poll though, and it's very much X-Factor type of drivel!