Four legs good two legs bad...

dandy-candy

Is anyone else here amazed by how some posters are so vehemently pro one party and anti another even when a good/bad policy comes along? I think every party has a few policies I like and a few I don't but some here I imagine would rather stab themselves to death with their party rosette pin before admiting it. And whats with all the "I won't vote Labour because of what happened in the 1970's" or "I won't vote Tory cos of Maggie" - don't people ever see the parties in their current form? I'm waiting for a "I won't vote Liberal cos Gladstone was too familiar with fallen women in the 1840's" post...

JonnyBravo

Ha ha. Yep quite right.

The most amusing sight at the moment however, is the sight of lots of people who have only ever voted Labour who are now tying themselves up in knots over what to do.

They of course still hate the Tories but they also realise their supposed saviours have been just like any other human when they get into power. ie extremely fallible and even corrupt in some cases. Shock horror.

I'm afraid I hate them all and have no confidence that anything will change to any meaningful degree no matter who gets in.... but I will attempt to make some change by voting to throw out another party which has failed.
Problem is I'm going to be voting in a party I chose to throw out only a few years ago for such a failure.

Ah well, at least house prices are on the rise. He he he.

:rolleyes:

System

It's the fundamental reason that politics is a load of immature tosh. It's fanboyism for grownups.

People vote for their favourite party regardless of what they say or do.

bo_drinker

Joeskeppi wrote: »

People vote for their favourite party regardless of what they say or do.

Unfortunately in a lot of cases this is true,, sad though it is.

bo_drinker

As someone who may have voted Labour and would never vote for Dave, he is a fake but I don't trust any of them tbh.
I find myself in a position where they are talking a talk but you know they won't walk the walk (either of them).
As a protest I will vote UKIP.
Dave will probably win with a very slim majority.

Spartacus_Mills

dandy-candy wrote: »

Is anyone else here amazed by how some posters are so vehemently pro one party and anti another even when a good/bad policy comes along? I think every party has a few policies I like and a few I don't but some here I imagine would rather stab themselves to death with their party rosette pin before admiting it. And whats with all the "I won't vote Labour because of what happened in the 1970's" or "I won't vote Tory cos of Maggie" - don't people ever see the parties in their current form? I'm waiting for a "I won't vote Liberal cos Gladstone was too familiar with fallen women in the 1840's" post...

Yes, it is both comical and pathetic at the same time. There are alot of rabid Labour supporters on here desperately astroturfing and trotting out the line Labour good Tories bad. They support their party in the same tribal way people support their football teams. They also go on about Thatcher which is as relevant as the Tories attacking Labour in 1979 for the Winter of Discontent. The problem with that approach is when it does not happen you have totally devalued any future line of attack as the Tories did so spectacularly in 1997.

You only have to look at the double standards. Clown supreme ninky has started a thread about a business lobby group that opposes the Tories plans on immigration. This is the same poster who was desperately claiming last week all businessmen were Tories because of the NIC thing. You could not make it up.

These people are imbeciles on all sides of the divide and there are plenty of Tory and Lib Dems bunkerbots out there as well but refreshingly few on here. It does seem to be primarily Labour trolls we are infested with although other forums differ for this.

I am a Lib Dem but I can see the good in some Tory proposals and see the good in some Labour proposals and see the weakness in some of our proposals. It is nice to debate around that premise for all instead of re-reading the same rehashed party BS trotted out from forum to forum.

lostinrates

I've had good reason to discuss politics with some of my neighbours recently. Not something I would normally do over a ''garden fence'' so to speak.

I'm pleasantly pleased to hear that people are saying they thinking very seriously about changing their votes. Interstingly one conversation particularly struck me...a lady who had always voted Lib dem is thinking of voting conservative. It was interesting to hear her reasoning, and it surprised me< my gut feeling is that Lib Dems can't fail to get more votes this time. There are of course died in the woolers....one will vote conservative almost come what may, that woman's husband will certainly vote Lib Dem..

Its the only time I've had reason other than strictly conversational....and its really interesting to hear people talk. I'm also shocked at the apathy: among the very young and the retired....the very people I have always thouht were the most ...enthused is not the word, but the most likely to vote.

Pobby

To be honest I come from a long line of Labour supporters and party members. It is highly unlikely that I or Mrs. P will be voting Labour this time around. I hope if Dave is reading this he doesn`t get excited, we are hardly likely to vote Tory.

wymondham

I don't have any swayings as such (other than admire Vince Cable) and will treat any good policy from any party on it's merits. It would be great to pick the best people and policies from each party wouldn't it?

JonnyBravo

Pobby wrote: »

To be honest I come from a long line of Labour supporters and party members. It is highly unlikely that I or Mrs. P will be voting Labour this time around. I hope if Dave is reading this he doesn`t get excited, we are hardly likely to vote Tory.

You still don't sound sure though??
Even after all your moaning about what they've done wrong you're still tempted aren't you?
It's a hard habit to break it seems.

bo_drinker

Pobby wrote: »

To be honest I come from a long line of Labour supporters and party members. It is highly unlikely that I or Mrs. P will be voting Labour this time around. I hope if Dave is reading this he doesn`t get excited, we are hardly likely to vote Tory.

I think there are loads in this position, they know as others that we desperately need change but would never put an X in the tory box, it depends on how they have been hit by the recession/ downturn etc.
As I said before I am sure Dave will win, but by the skin of his teeth. People have had a guts full but no one is really offering a real alternative as we all know times will be hard in the near future whoever wins......

My X will be going here..... http://www.ukip.org/