Labour target cancer sufferers in new ad

Jonbvn

Graham_Devon wrote: »

It's this very thing that puts me off voting labour. We have 3 rock solid labour supporters on here, who will NOT listen to anything.

Furthermore, their use of this forum to try and canvass votes is starting to pee me off royally, to the exent that I may start reporting such posts as abuse.:mad:

sunshinetours

Nothing surprises me anymore re this bunch supposedly "in power"

They have clearly shown to have lied and cheated the Uk public in so many areas over the years and yet STILL, unbelievably there are those out there who believe they really may be are OK and may be we should give them another 5 years

Apathy and socially dumbed down, along with a massive welfare funded population certainly are Labour's friends, along with the undeniable fact that the Tories just simply really don't seem to actually GET IT either

So no, Labour misuing private information (allegedlly!) really doesn't surprise me at all

leveller2911

Personally I think its nothing short of a disgrace and secondly It should be against the Data Protection Act ,if its not already.

Would also say I'm glad I don't have any political allegiances .I feel sorry for some people on here.

ninky_2

Jonbvn wrote: »

Furthermore, their use of this forum to try and canvass votes is starting to pee me off royally, to the exent that I may start reporting such posts as abuse.:mad:

a big supporter of democracy then. is it only tory supporters who are allowed to post on here?:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

ninky_2

sunshinetours wrote: »

So no, Labour misuing private information (allegedlly!) really doesn't surprise me at all

they have not used private information.

if you are worried about an invasion of privacy do you go and tell your story to the daily mail or whatever?

dandy-candy

I read this story in the paper and it make me shudder to think someone came up with this campaign idea and no one else along the way from idea to printing press though to point out how distasteful it is. My mum is terminally ill with breast cancer and everyday is a struggle for her to keep it together. Without a doubt if she had (or has) got one of these through the door she would be in tears. Political leanings aside, any party or company who thought this was a good idea is pretty warped.

abaxas

ninky wrote: »

a big supporter of democracy then. is it only tory supporters who are allowed to post on here?:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

The problem is that most of the tories here are open to debate, when the labour supporters dont.

All due to demographics and ability. Those who cant, want. Those who can, do.

sunshinetours

ninky wrote: »

they have not used private information.

if you are worried about an invasion of privacy do you go and tell your story to the daily mail or whatever?

Ninky whilst I appreciate I am floggiong a dead horse trying to argue anything with you re labour - lets just say its interesting, the selective parts of posts you pick up on and try and spin.

The fact that you have no issue with this type of propoganda says it all to me thanks......

vivatifosi

whathavewedone wrote: »

There are others on other forums saying that these women have no right to moan, they're so lucky that they have these "guarantees".

What's a guarantee and what is it worth?

I'm not against targets per se and hope that we don't go back to those times - under the tories who should be ashamed - where people routinely waited for over a year for a hip operation while experiencing absolutely no quality of life. However we do need to question what we're measuring and why. I don't know if anyone else has read "Blood Sweat and Tea", the blog of a London paramedic, but he states that their target is to get to a patient within the time, not to save lives. Therefore if he struggles through traffic for 15 minutes, gets to a patient and manages to resuscitate them, that is classed as a failure; whereas if there's no traffic, he gets to a patient who lives, then that's classed as a success.

We need to be careful what we're measuring and not just blindly accept that certain targets are right. I don't want to see all targets removed, but I wouldn't be against a review of targets no matter which party instigated it. However that's just my lay-person's view. I'd be interested if there are health care professionals posting on here to hear what they think.

amersall

Really2 wrote: »

So you agree with the mailshot?
Do you actually believe the mailshot was for information not political gain?
Do you really believe the conservatives are going to purposely endanger lives?

in a word YES