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Polish president's plane crashes in Russia + head of the Central Bank

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  • amcluesent
    amcluesent Posts: 9,425 Forumite
    As the saying goes, don't put all your eggs in one Tupolev.
  • A real tragedy for the nation of Poland especially as they were on their way to commemorate Katyn.
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  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Katyn.

    What was Katyn please?
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    edited 10 April 2010 at 11:38AM
    amcluesent wrote: »

    Wow. I never knew. That's horrible and came as a partial result of Stalin's alliance with Hitler presumably.

    And loads of posters here still seem to see Communism as a slightly misguided philosophy not something that is the same thing as Nazism only with a different flag.
    Those who died at Katyn included an admiral, two generals, 24 colonels, 79 lieutenant colonels, 258 majors, 654 captains, 17 naval captains, 3,420 NCOs, seven chaplains, three landowners, a prince, 43 officials, 85 privates, and 131 refugees. Also among the dead were 20 university professors (including Stefan Kaczmarz); 300 physicians; several hundred lawyers, engineers, and teachers; and more than 100 writers and journalists as well as about 200 pilots....

    Up to 99% of the remaining prisoners were subsequently murdered....

    The killings were methodical. After the condemned's personal information was checked, he was handcuffed and led to a cell insulated with a felt-lined door. The sounds of the murders were also masked by the operation of loud machines (perhaps fans) throughout the night. After being taken into the cell, the victim was immediately shot in the back of the head.

    Every Communist sympathiser has this as a stain on their moral being.
  • StevieJ
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    Generali wrote: »
    Wow. I never knew. That's horrible and came as a partial result of Stalin's alliance with Hitler presumably.

    And loads of posters here still seem to see Communism as a slightly misguided philosophy not something that is the same thing as Nazism only with a different flag.

    Behave Gen, I never read such a set up as that one, try harder next time.

    From the article.
    Thousands of Polish prisoners of war and intellectuals were murdered at Katyn by Soviet forces in spring 1940 in an enduring symbol for Poles of their suffering under Soviet rule.
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  • Generali
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Behave Gen, I never read such a set up as that one, try harder next time.

    From the article.
    Thousands of Polish prisoners of war and intellectuals were murdered at Katyn by Soviet forces in spring 1940 in an enduring symbol for Poles of their suffering under Soviet rule.

    What set up? I don't get your point.

    According to the Wiki article (not historical 'truth' of course) the Soviets denied this until 1990.
  • Sapphire
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    edited 10 April 2010 at 11:44AM
    Generali wrote: »
    Wow. I never knew. That's horrible and came as a partial result of Stalin's alliance with Hitler presumably.

    And loads of posters here still seem to see Communism as a slightly misguided philosophy not something that is the same thing as Nazism only with a different flag.



    Every Communist sympathiser has this as a stain on their moral being.

    My grandfather was one of the Polish officers murdered by the Russians thus. (He wasn't a fighting man, but a doctor and a member of the Polish intelligentsia, which the Russians did their best to dispose of.)

    Small wonder that most Poles are strongly anti-communist.

    As far as British communist sympathizers go – and I've met many 'intelligent' British sympathizers who have never had the pleasure of living under communism – they hide their heads in the sand, ignoring the millions murdered by communists. I agree with your final comment. Communism and Nazism are equally vile.
  • StevieJ
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    Asheron wrote: »

    Is this a first non-conspiracy post? or do you think the Illuminati was behind it?
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