Weezl and friends Phase 2 -giving it a whirl for Shirl! Testing meal plan for a month

emg

Murrell wrote: »

Hi all,

I wonder if any of you can make vegan food suggestions for me. My dad has a tumor in his throat which is being removed on Tuesday. Once is he home with me I need to feed him easy foods in small portions as his throat will be sore for a long time.
So far I can only think of soup/stew or mash potato with mash veg and gravy for main meals. My mind is just blank.
Puddings are easier as I can give him stewed fruit, custard, ice cream, tapioca/rice pud and possibly pancakes.

Any other suggestions, mainly for savoury.

Thanks in advance
Sandra
x

My dad had surgery and radiotherapy on his throat. He always said pasta 'slipped down easily' - can you get vegan pasta? Can you make vegan gnocchi or something similar to that? A well cooked risotto was also easy for him to eat, or how about a lentil dahl? Your dad can probably still have things with a bit of a bite, just no sharp edges until he's healed up (my dad said he dreamed of eating tortilla chips in the days following his op!)

grandma247

http://kidshealth.org/kid/stay_healthy/food/go_slow_whoa.html#
There is also this one. I like it because it answers a lot of hard to answer questions about lots of subjects.

queen_of_string

Murrel

just a quick one on the feeding up front. We are moving house tomorrow so it will be a bit busy for a couple of days.

From what I remember full fat dairy and puddings were a joy. Almost everything came with a gravy or a sauce ( gravy has loads of cals without being greasy). Lots of things were unnecessarily fried, or had a fried topping ( like crispy onions) or had browned cheese on the top. It was easier with him because he wanted to eat more cals without eating sugars constantly. Puddings are great, as are ice pops and full sugar drinks. Ice pops score double coz theyre sugar loaded and seem refreshing not cloying. He had all kinds of puddings and cookies and cakes. Even healthy looking things like flapjacks can have near fatal amounts of sugar in if you're trying to be stealthy.

I know there's some research to back up the idea that restricted choice = less eating ( something we are going to be trying on the snack front here shortly). So, with the ex, I used to have all kinds of goodies in, so if he felt even a tiny bit peckish, he was likely to spot something yummy to snack on. Sneaky drinks can be good too, iced tea and hot chocolate for starters.

I wouldn't reccommend living with someone who has to eat like this, it's not good for your waist line! I hope your FIL finds a way to keep at a healthy weight. I'm presuming he has checked it's not an illness or a mental health problem like depression that's keeping his weight down. ( you probably already know, but depression is very, very common in the elderly ( if he's not elderly I apologise), hugely under reported and often missed by GPs)

Thanks to Julie and grandma for the links, I'll have a good look soon. Be a fun topic to explore with her I think, as she knows I am genuinely interested.

nopot2pin

Sian_the_Green wrote: »

I miss this thread. I miss the chat about Susan's kids, and Lesley's meetings, and Weezl's random conversation with AM about how they can power the TV with an exercise bike and Allegra's lovely daughter's complicated dietary requirements... I think unrelated chat is brilliant, can we bring it back?

I have been a bit peeeved off recently.... nothing bad.
Just work stuff, and some family(or lack of support) stuff.
I am sure it will work its self out in the end.
It makes me think lots, and prevents me from posting inate drivel

Anyway, I am going fruit picking tomorrow, if the weathers not too bad.
Then jam making

Which leads me onto my next question.....

weezl74 wrote: »

thanks murrel

have you tried doughnuts for the fattening up campaign? you can inject custard, jam or syrup into the centre?

How do you get the jam/custard/syrup inside ??
I cant get my head round it ...
Do you cook the doughnut first then put the stuff in, or the other way around ??
Please help :rotfl:

Murrell

weezl74 wrote: »

thanks murrel

have you tried doughnuts for the fattening up campaign? you can inject custard, jam or syrup into the centre?

Yes, we have, but he keeps not fancying them. I think I may pop up to co-op later and get some to share with him anyway!

I am going to take a photo of his back today and print it out and show him. This may incourage him, if he realises how much his bones are showing. I didn't know how thin he had become until he said he had a lump on his back and it was his pelvis sticking out a couple of days ok. So its all systems go to try to get him to gain weight, not easy when he usually only eats half of whatever he is given.

Sandra
x

Murrell

emg wrote: »

My dad had surgery and radiotherapy on his throat. He always said pasta 'slipped down easily' - can you get vegan pasta? Can you make vegan gnocchi or something similar to that? A well cooked risotto was also easy for him to eat, or how about a lentil dahl? Your dad can probably still have things with a bit of a bite, just no sharp edges until he's healed up (my dad said he dreamed of eating tortilla chips in the days following his op!)

Thanks for info, will add to list. Dried pasta is vegan unless its a egg pasta, so easy I could make or even buy (might not feel like cooking) gnocchi. Yes lentil dahl is a good idea, I have the recipe from the 50p thread that I made once.
Well my dad doesn't eat crisps or tortilla chips so at least he won't miss them.

Thanks again
Sandra
x

Murrell

queen_of_string wrote: »

Murrel

just a quick one on the feeding up front. We are moving house tomorrow so it will be a bit busy for a couple of days.

From what I remember full fat dairy and puddings were a joy. Almost everything came with a gravy or a sauce ( gravy has loads of cals without being greasy). Lots of things were unnecessarily fried, or had a fried topping ( like crispy onions) or had browned cheese on the top. It was easier with him because he wanted to eat more cals without eating sugars constantly. Puddings are great, as are ice pops and full sugar drinks. Ice pops score double coz theyre sugar loaded and seem refreshing not cloying. He had all kinds of puddings and cookies and cakes. Even healthy looking things like flapjacks can have near fatal amounts of sugar in if you're trying to be stealthy.

I know there's some research to back up the idea that restricted choice = less eating ( something we are going to be trying on the snack front here shortly). So, with the ex, I used to have all kinds of goodies in, so if he felt even a tiny bit peckish, he was likely to spot something yummy to snack on. Sneaky drinks can be good too, iced tea and hot chocolate for starters.

I wouldn't reccommend living with someone who has to eat like this, it's not good for your waist line! I hope your FIL finds a way to keep at a healthy weight. I'm presuming he has checked it's not an illness or a mental health problem like depression that's keeping his weight down. ( you probably already know, but depression is very, very common in the elderly ( if he's not elderly I apologise), hugely under reported and often missed by GPs)

Thanks to Julie and grandma for the links, I'll have a good look soon. Be a fun topic to explore with her I think, as she knows I am genuinely interested.

Thanks for the info, I have written it all down for my mother in law. He is in his 80s and has possible dementia. He was 6 stone when he was last weighed so may be less now. He is short and only small framed, but probably should weigh 7-8 stone. My MIL although a little over weight and liking her cakes has lost weight through all the worry and running about looking after him. She eats her salad so she can have cake and chocolate, thats her way of coping with it and it seems to work on most days!

Thanks for taking the time to write when you are moving tomorrow.
Sandra
x

SusanC_2

nopot2pin wrote: »

How do you get the jam/custard/syrup inside ??
I cant get my head round it ...
Do you cook the doughnut first then put the stuff in, or the other way around ??
Please help :rotfl:

I've never actually done it but I've always assumed that you would either:
a) have a special syringe to inject it
or
b) make it kind of like a pasty before cooking so the jam is already inside.

Allegra

Work in progress !



Kitty’s Batch Cooking
Week 1 - list of dishes
Seed spread x 4
Houmus x1
Porridge x2
Walnut spread x1
Tangy bean pate x1
Tapenade x1
Green pea soup x1
Pancakes x1
Cloddies x1
Pasta salad x1
Pasta funghi
Panzanella
Bean curry
Sweetcorn fritters
Shepherdess pie
Calzone
Tomato and olive pie
Snacks:
Bread and carrot loaf
Bread and ginger loaf
Bread 5 loaves
Lemon cordial
Doughnuts
Raisin scones
BNS tart

Batch cooking in the first week:
Seed spread
Houmus
Walnut spread
Tangy Bean pate
Olive tapenade
Bread
Lemon cordial
Doughnuts

Week 2
Seed spread x4
Onion houmus x1
Porridge x3
Walnut spread x1
Tangy bean pate x1
Olive tapnade x1
Lunchtime risotto x1
Surprise soup x1
Lentil pate x1
Pea risotto
Veggie burgers
Sweetcorn fritters
Calzone
Shepherdess pie
Saag aloo
Nut roast
Bread and snacks:
Carrot loaf
Ginger loaf
Coconut pudding
Boodle biscuits
Chutney


Batch cook in week 2:
Onion houmus
Lentil pate
Bread and carrot
Bread and ginger

Week 3
Seed spread x5
Houmus x2
Tangy bean pate x2
Walnut spread
Porridge
Green pea soup x1
Cloddies x1
Lentil pate x1
Pasta salad x1
Onion tart
Red pepper pasta
Bean curry
Panzanella
Calzone
Tomato & olive pie
Shepherdess pie
Bread and snacks:
Carrot loaf
Ginger loaf
Bread 5 loaves
Raisin scones

Batch cook in week 3:
Seed spread
Red pepper houmus

Week 4:
Seed spread x4
Houmus x1
Tomato houmus x1
Porridge x3
Walnut spread x2
Tangy bean pate x1
Lunchtime risotto x1
Surprise soup x1
Olive tapenade x1
Pea risotto
Veggie burgers
Moroccan rice
Calzone
BNS risotto
Saag aloo
Nut roast

Bread and snacks:
Carrot loaf
Ginger loaf
Coconut pud
Tomato scones

Batch cook:
Carrot loaf
Ginger loaf
Tomato houmus
Tomati scones

Week 5:
Seed spread x2
Houmus x1
Lentil pate x1
Tangy bean pate x1
Onion tart
Red pepper pasta
Moroccan rice

Allegra

Kitty’s Month 1 Shopping List:

FRUIT AND VEG

2x SP lemons £1.74
300g ginger £0.63
1x SP mushrooms (400g) £0.87
700g swede £0.63
5 x SP peanuts 200g £1.15
1.6kg BNS £1.60
2x brazil nuts (200g) £2
2x walnut pieces (150g) £3
4x pumpkin seeds (150g) £3.96
4x SP onions (2kg) £3.88
5x SP raisins (500g) £3.20
4.9 kg carrots £3.72
5x SP potatoes (2.5kg) £3.90

FROZEN
1x SP sweetcorn (907g) £0.87
1x frozen roasted parsnips (680g) £0.92
1x spinach (1kg) £1.02
5 x SP peas (907g) £4.35

TINS, JARS AND COOKING

1x oregano (12g) £0.50
2x tomato puree (142g) £0.50
1x KTC pure creamed coconut (200g) £0.27
1x olives stuffed with garlic (340g) £0.84
1x balsamic vinegar (250ml) £1
1x roasted red peppers (480g) £1
3x SP baked beans (420g) £0.87
1x ASDA sun dried tomatoes (280g) £1.38
6x SP red kidney beans (400g) £1.14
2x vegetable oil (3l) £5.04
3x yeast extract (240g) £4.98
18x plum tomatoes (400g) £5.58
1x mustard powder £0.90

PACKETS & CEREALS

1 x Granose green lentils (500g) £0.96
3 x SP pasta shapes (500g) £0.96
1 x red lentils (500g) £1
2 x Allinson yeast (125g) £1.28
2x 1 kg sugar £1.50
2x NATCO chickpeas (500g) £1.86
5x SP SR flour (1.5kg) £2.10
4x SP rice (1kg) £2.92
11x strong bread flour (1.5kg) £6.60
7x ASDA ready oats (750g) £9.24

TOTAL £89.86