Weezl and friends Phase 2 -giving it a whirl for Shirl! Testing meal plan for a month

HowlinWolf

Have I killed the thread?

*zippy*

Those wraps look lovely, I managed to get a bag of sweet potatoes for 20p on Thursday I was wondering what to do with them. How long did it take you to make howlin? The lentil casserole looks nice too, have you tried ot yet?

HowlinWolf

I've made the lentil casserole and the tamarind chickpeas loads. Both are relatively easy and low work involvement. I haven't tried the recipe pink hayley posted yet but I think it's going on my list. The lentil casserole is really warming and filling. Nice with chappatis and a little yogurt

*zippy*

Sorry howlin I got my posts mixed up there I will give both a try :T

morag1202

About recommended daily allowance (RDA)

A recommended daily allowance (RDA) is set for certain vitamins and minerals. The RDA is the minimum amount needed by the body to remain healthy. The following table from the Annex to Council Directive 90/496/EEC - (amended by Directive 2008/100/EC) - on nutrition labelling of foodstuffs sets out the RDA for a range of vitamins and minerals. However a transition period will apply for the new RDAs until 31 October 2012.

RDA for vitamins

Vitamins RDA
Vitamin A 800 micrograms
Vitamin D 5 micrograms
Vitamin E 12 milligrams
Vitamin K 75 micrograms
Vitamin C 80 milligrams
Thiamin 1.1 milligrams
Riboflavin 1.4 milligrams
Niacin 16 milligrams
Vitamin B6 1.4 milligrams
Folic Acid 200 micrograms
Vitamin B12 2.5 micrograms
Biotin 50 micrograms
Pantothenic Acid 6 milligrams


RDA for minerals

Minerals RDA
Potassium 2 grams
Chloride 800 milligrams
Calcium 800 milligrams
Phosphorous 700 milligrams
Magnesium 375 milligrams
Iron 14 milligrams
Zinc 10 milligrams
Copper 1 milligram
Manganese 2 milligrams
Fluoride 3.5 milligrams
Selenium 55 micrograms
Chromium 40 micrograms
Molybdenum 50 micrograms
Iodine 150 micrograms


I found this information ages ago on this site and thought it might be worth posting now. Sorry the spacing is a bit off but I can't do screen grabs

weezl74

good morning

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Morag how spooky, I was going to ask you if you'd mind reposting that thank you!

So to summarise yesterday, people are very keen on the hardcore planner and we do not feel that genuine shirley's will be the ones criticising the plan.

Can I say how I see it?

Even if shirl doesn't come with us in the thinking revealed in avocet's introduction, this is what I think she'd probably do: do her own month one with the meat.

probably do it again one more month. As some dishes have now been eaten 6 times, she may now need some variety. She then reads her own alternatives article and makes that do her another month.

Then she looks at Kitty's planner, and uses the fruit money to buy 2 chickens and a couple of bars of chocolate. The chicken makes an enormous amount of pies and everyone is happy.

She does that and it's alternatives for a month again.

Then she has a look at the hardcore month. She's read avocets introduction but she doesn't get it. Why would the govt say 5 a day and all her friends say but ideally more if you can get away with 2?

BUT, she and Bob have saved so much money, and the food is so nice, and Bob's not grumpy about the meatlessness, he even told his friends at work about this really nice onion quiche he made on the weekend. He's feeling all Jamie about it.

So she thinks, I'll do the hardcore month, but I've realised that carrots, onion and marrowfats are such a cheap way to get veg, that I'll add those in.

So I'm going to have my 5 a day, but because I started with the 50p plan, I'm still under 80p a day.

So that's 5 months.

I personally would then have no trouble at all with going back to the original month, cos after 3 months without the pizza, risi e bisi and carbonara, they'd be all new again, YAY!

I think she's sorted.

weezl74

But that might be wishful thinking, so howlin, do you agree that that's enough to keep shirl going?

HowlinWolf

Can I think about it for a bit? I've been thinking Shirley since about 6.30 this morning so I shall keep thinking while I go and look for a new fridge freezer.

Although can I just say that I think JulieMK (at least I hope it was Julie) made some really good points a page or two back about what tools Shirley would need in order to be able to go it alone or adapt plans and recipes and I think that merits some further thought.

Allegra

I'm kinda with you on the thinking, Weezl - and I'm totally with Avocet on the need to explain your thinking and give as much nutritional info as is possible - we have seen already what happens when it's not all out there, blow by blow for people to see where you're coming from.

Looking at your reasoning above, I would be inclined to think that as long as there's some meat in the hardcore planner, Bob would have no problem with it (who wants to eat rabbit food, anyways ?); Shirl will be swayed by the nutritional breakdown eventually; it's Jenny and Jason I'd be most worried about, as they are likely to be learning about 5-a-day at school, and when they have to do their own food diary for a week, the teachers will probably be shocked to see at what they would perceive as lack of fresh goodness in their diet. Cue deprived child syndrome.

Which is why they MUST have the nutritional info right there, so they can show their teachers that no, they are not lacking in anything, and that there are more inventive ways of getting their nutrients than the one-size-fits-none five-a-day malarkey.

I will have a bit of time on the PC to spare today - I'll do the "you can help" bit for "about us" first, I can't go any further on the Kitty batch cook/weekly list until I have the monthly shopping list and menu plan fully confirmed - did you want Shirl Week 3 and 4 shopping lists, or can I do anything else for you ?

Oh, and did you find Susan's post you were after yesterday in the end ?

Allegra

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