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EBAY is ruined
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Guys you should all chill out.................. lots of people like shops, if you don't like them don't look !0
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The other issue is that many of these sellers are simply not playing on a level playing field with other sellers (UK and non-UK) as they list items (often fakes) with low starting prices and excessive postage charges. This is against eBay rules and blatant fee avoidance. eBay UK have admitted they currently do not have the resources to deal with this problem and it would appear that most of these sellers are in China. Buyers as well as sellers have complained about this problem and it has tarnished the eBay UK site's reputation. There is wide spread spectulation on the Community Message Boards and on other sites on the internet that the main reason that this problem has not been tackled before now is that eBay as a company is trying to break into the Chinese auction market and didn't want to upset Chinese sellers. eBay have recently announced that they plan to focus on this area, although it will take time to put the necessary resources in place. The general concensus is that eBay couldn't continue to ignore the problem any longer because of the legal implications of not acting when the problem is so well known.
There is a very interesting thread on the Business Sellers Board today started by a Chinese seller ('Let's establish "Honest" or Honest List') where both UK and non-UK sellers discuss the issues around the selling of fake goods on eBay. If you can fight your way through the rubbish you will see how big the difference in opinions of the rights and wrongs seems to be.[/quote]
Well said 'BonnyBonthenet'. You are spot on. eBay's complacentcy on the search issues and the lack of investment put into cleaning out their site is loosing buyers. People either cannot find the bargain they want or they are scared of getting scammed. Once they get ripped off they are unlikely to be back.
Ive also noticed buyers becoming extremely demanding! Maybe because others have messed them around I dont know. Its as though they dont trust you from the start, giving ulitmatums, terse emails. eBay buyers want the latest item, in the best condition, for the lowest price delivered yesterday! The feedback system lets many buyers feel as though they are all powerful and can do what they want because they can always neg you! Ive got over 4000 feedbacks with 100% positive and if someone leaves me a negative it will be undeserved as I go out of my way to help everyone with same day dispatch and most items sent freepost. However I frequently feel like strangling many of my buyers!0 -
"The other issue is that many of these sellers are simply not playing on a level playing field with other sellers (UK and non-UK) as they list items (often fakes) with low starting prices and excessive postage charges. This is against eBay rules and blatant fee avoidance. eBay UK have admitted they currently do not have the resources to deal with this problem and it would appear that most of these sellers are in China. Buyers as well as sellers have complained about this problem and it has tarnished the eBay UK site's reputation. There is wide spread spectulation on the Community Message Boards and on other sites on the internet that the main reason that this problem has not been tackled before now is that eBay as a company is trying to break into the Chinese auction market and didn't want to upset Chinese sellers. eBay have recently announced that they plan to focus on this area, although it will take time to put the necessary resources in place. The general concensus is that eBay couldn't continue to ignore the problem any longer because of the legal implications of not acting when the problem is so well known.
There is a very interesting thread on the Business Sellers Board today started by a Chinese seller ('Let's establish "Honest" or Honest List') where both UK and non-UK sellers discuss the issues around the selling of fake goods on eBay. If you can fight your way through the rubbish you will see how big the difference in opinions of the rights and wrongs seems to be."
Well said 'BonnyBonthenet'. You are spot on. eBay's complacentcy on the search issues and the lack of investment put into cleaning out their site is loosing buyers. People either cannot find the bargain they want or they are scared of getting scammed. Once they get ripped off they are unlikely to be back.
Ive also noticed buyers becoming extremely demanding! Maybe because others have messed them around I dont know. Its as though they dont trust you from the start, giving ulitmatums, terse emails. eBay buyers want the latest item, in the best condition, for the lowest price delivered yesterday! The feedback system lets many buyers feel as though they are all powerful and can do what they want because they can always neg you! Ive got over 4000 feedbacks with 100% positive and if someone leaves me a negative it will be undeserved as I go out of my way to help everyone with same day dispatch and most items sent freepost. However I frequently feel like strangling many of my buyers!0 -
I must be using a different ebay then as my nice buyers outweigh my bad ones by about 500 to 1. I have 'met' some great buyers, had some lovely correspondence. My bad buyers are so rare that I tend to focus on them too much and quite unnecessarily. I've never had a chargeback, never had any abuse and apart from a stalker (who got banned pretty quickly) haven't really had many problems at all.
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soolin wrote:I must be using a different ebay then as my nice buyers outweigh my bad ones by about 500 to 1. I have 'met' some great buyers, had some lovely correspondence. My bad buyers are so rare that I tend to focus on them too much and quite unnecessarily. I've never had a chargeback, never had any abuse and apart from a stalker (who got banned pretty quickly) haven't really had many problems at all.
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Well said Soolin.
As I tell many people who want to start using eBay to buy/sell:
To stay safe, just use your common sense!
If you want to sell successfully, you have to work hard.0 -
iwanttosave wrote:I hate it when you try to find a mobile phone and you have to search through about 12 pages of facias and batteries to get the them. :mad: I hardly bother with the place anymore.
Did you know you can add search terms you don't want returning? For example you can enter Nokia 5110 -fascia -battery -charger to remove all the fascia, battery and charger auctions.
It's a really useful function, and I use it a lot
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And to get rid of items from overseas set search settings to items within 750 miles (should cover the UK)0
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laura_marshall89 wrote:It IS a large online shop...and obviously people want the most for their items.
Agree with you on certain items. Not on most things though. There are some items such as DVD's that go for silly prices on Ebay. You are not even likely to break even once you have paid postage, ebay fees and paypal fees for the prices that some people list for.0 -
M_Thomson wrote:There are some items such as DVD's that go for silly prices on Ebay. You are not even likely to break even once you have paid postage, ebay fees and paypal fees for the prices that some people list for.
To be honest it depends what sort of DVD's you are selling, i sell quite a lot of DVD's - i only accept postal order or cheque (have had the occassional bank transfer aswell though they are quite rare unfourtunatly) to avoid paying paypal fees. I find that those that i sell i get quite a good price for as they are quite well sort after and i do make a fair bit after fee's, postage, packaging and the cost of the product itself.
I find that films especially if they are not recent ones dont sell so well unless they are special or collectors editions.
Though on the subject of fakes 95% of the questions that i recieve from buyers are double checking that they are genuine uk originals - which makes me think that there are so many buyers out there that are buying DVD's to recieve them and find they are copies - I cant say i blame them for being cautious!
I actually recieved one question this evening from a potential buyer asking me if there was a reason why i hadnt used an actual picture of the DVD's on one of my listings (i had baby in my arms trying to feed her at the time of the listing - this multitasking is becoming quite easy now :rotfl: ) and if it would be possible for me to scan the case and send a copy of it to him. I sent him a quick email back explaining what had happened and said that as soon as i got a chance to get a photo tomorrow i would email it straight over to him. I got a lovely email back congratulating me on the birth of the baby, thanking me for my quick and helpful response and he then informed me that he was currently very interested and watching 8 of my items.
The good ebayers definatly outweigh the bad ones :j Though thats not to say i dont come across the bad ones because i have had the non payers, the abusive idiots etc etc but its all part of ebay the way i look at it.
though i think if i didnt have here sometimes i would lose the plot! :rotfl:The Only Thing Men Can Do Right Is Get Everything Wrong
Anyone Care To Prove Me Right?
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essexhoney wrote:To be honest it depends what sort of DVD's you are selling, i sell quite a lot of DVD's - i only accept postal order or cheque (have had the occassional bank transfer aswell though they are quite rare unfourtunatly) to avoid paying paypal fees.
I think that this is the way to go, unfortunately most ebayers use Paypal and their fees are high especially for low price goods. It is also against eBay rules for Sellers to add on a mark up for goods paid via Paypal, but there is nothing to stop sellers offering a discount for any payment method other then Paypal
If you want more bank transfers essexhoney then state that this is you prefered payment method and that the winning bidder will recieve you bank details. Looking at your auctions, you have only mentioned Postal orders and bankers drafts. I found it helped my auctions to add the bank transfer statement,
However a lot of are still worried about anything to do with bank details and the Intenet.
But please remember when you write a cheque you give out more information!
You give you account number sort code AND a copy of your signature :eek:If freedom is outlawed, only outlaws will have freedom.0
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