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And another bear bites the dust... mbga9pgf's epiphany....

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  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    If anything bad were to happen to Hamish (or any other forum member), you would certainly not find me gloating over it, or approving of others doing so.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • Cannon_Fodder
    Cannon_Fodder Posts: 3,980 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    What has Bear and Bull got to do with it?



    The thread title ?
  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    MatteH wrote: »
    How on earth will those FTB buy something better if HPI increases faster than wage inflation?. If they've stretched themselves to buy that first home, rampant inflation in the cost of housing isn't going to make it easier to trade up to a bigger home later on.

    The bit that winds me up sometimes is the fact that times change. Values change and different generations have to deal with high or low values in all sorts of things. Us ordinary types just have to find our way through it as best we can.

    My old Dad came to visit and we walked Brighton seafront eastwards and he commented on how the houses were like a lasting memorial to times now gone. Mostly Regency, they are large and used to be occupied by one family (and usually for the summer only as they would be in London for the winter) and all their staff.
    Now 90% are carved up into flats of varying sizes and lived in/owned by 1 or 2 people.

    I didn't want to join in on the gossip of the poster mentioned in the OP (not because I am trying to be 'nice;...but more because ICBA) but he must be quite high up in the army to have saved that much over 5 years.

    I really need to read 3 Billy Goats Gruff again as I have forgotton it but if it's a fable about greed and waiting, waiting, waiting for more, more, more then missing out, then it is a very apt thing to post on the thread.

    I am guessing that mgf**** will get posted overseas and be very happy.
    I would suggest Canada (French bit)as you can get 5 beds, big garden and underground cellear (to live in during the snow) and empty streets for about 160k.
  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    LydiaJ wrote: »
    If anything bad were to happen to Hamish (or any other forum member), you would certainly not find me gloating over it, or approving of others doing so.
    Hamish is a babe and misunderstood most of the time.:D

    I am guessing he is a bloke with a positive outlook on life. Like the opposite to Asheron. It's a very Yin Yang board at the mo.:o
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    The thread title ?

    Where in my post though, that was what you were responding to
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    ...and just to say...how cute is my cat ? His name is Mr Ginger (if anyone was wondering) and I wanted to share the cuteness....so an all new avatar from today.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 2 April 2010 at 8:01PM
    Tripe.

    There is no productive endeavour in sitting around cheering on recession, unemployment, misery, reposession and homelessness, hoping the house market will crash, so you can act like a vulture and get yourself a cheapo deal at the expense of some poor granny's retirement fund.

    Being annoyed because they feel too big a sense of entitlement to live in the 3 bed semi they can so clearly afford, with the large pot of savings they've put aside on the proceeds of working for the public sector, all paid for by the taxes of the boomers and pensioners they want to see suffer.

    While I agree with you partly (making it hard for himself by wanting more), I don't agree with you entirely. On the wanting more however, I don't see any problem with people wanting more, saving for it, and achieveing it. What I do agree with you on is the way they have openly and publically moaned about not being able to achieve it, when they have achieved a lot.

    You see, the poster had his whinge, which he is entitled to do. However, you felt the need to take this far further, and post it up on a seperate board, with the old "I'm holier than thou" stuff.

    Even in this post which I quote, just saying he has 100k isn't quite good enough for you. You have to go further, and make something out of the fact that the money has somehow been "taken" from others via the public sector. I think you are taking the "want to see suffer" a little too far personally, especially given your want to see the other end of the spectrum, house prices rise, to allow others to suffer.

    Like i said, pot, kettle. You are entitled to your opinion. But the way you have done it, and do do it, needs working on. However, as you have said so many times yourself, you openly look for and enjoy the argument, I feel I'm only playing your game here.
  • Cannon_Fodder
    Cannon_Fodder Posts: 3,980 Forumite
    Its called context.
  • nickj_2
    nickj_2 Posts: 7,052 Forumite
    Sure, why not.

    Besides, I'm running out of bears to argue with, now that they're all giving up on the crash.:D

    i haven't given up on it happening - sooner or later interest rates will have to rise , remember there were a lotof people who could only just afford a mortgage before the credit crunch , rising house prices are talked of as a recovery , yet surely hp's were a major part of the problem in the 1st place , gordon knew that if he allowed a major hpc then he would be finished , so all he has done is stuck a plaster over a severed limb . to keep him at no 10 at all costs . the cost of living is only going one way , fuel , food , utilities are all increasing , taxes will have to rise to pay for govt debt . people will have to borrow higher multiples to get on the housing ladder , btl will have to increase rents to cover rising hps .
    i'm happy to wait , it may take years , but i believe it will happen , it's the same as people who believe in pyramid schemes cannot fail
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Really2 wrote: »

    Also I would like to see of these "defenders" on the thread to step up to the plate a bit more often. People may not like Hamish (or others) but how many threads are stated about him and having a go. Can't say I have seen the defence then.
    So If people are going to be heroes on the forum, don't just base it on if they are on "your side" or not because it just makes you a hypocrite. If you don't like how people are to others it should be based on what you see, not where you perceived "allegiances" are

    It's this stuff which get's on my wick. Everything on this forum seems to have to be broken down into one side against another. . Now I am labelled as a defender and an alligance

    I'm simply not. What I am, is a person with an opinion. And what Rinoa stated about the road to nowhere, and laughing icons, annoyed me, as the poster, whether real or not, has made a plan and stuck to it, and achieved what he set out to do in terms of saving to buy.

    Personally, I admire that. I admire someone who sticks things through for 5 years, and I admire them enough for that reason, regardless of what their opinion is on other things, to say something when someone try's to make out they are complete idiots and actively takes part in laughing at them.

    If it was an alligiance as you have put it, I wouldn't have also said in the past that I admire Hamish for simply stating he is mostly here to annoy and create arguments as that's what he enjoys doing.
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