Right you lot - Let's Change The World - Take 2

JoeCrystal

Still, the problem with cutting fuel duty and etc is that the money would need to be raised elsewhere to cover the shortfall. Unless Britain decided to go through massive spending cutting spree, basically the PM telling departments that this is what they get and that it! And chance of that happening is... slim.

carolt

Linton wrote: »

Good proposal, but one I fear will lead down the same line as all other threads. One suggestion to encourage informative debate. It's very easy to propose cuts that disadvantage other people. What about a "rule" that anything proposed should financially disadvantage the proposer?

An interesting idea, though I'd rather see solutions that are win-win, than win-lose, whether one is personally the winner or the loser.

Suggstions like picking up litter, say, seem pretty win-win, unless one is a really utterly lazy sod.

Or bringing more manufacturing home - that seems pretty win-win to me.


I think Hamish/Spartacus are best ignored - like naughty children when mum's having a serious conversation, who keep wanting to blow raspberries. It reminds me of my 3 year old's behaviour when I'm on the phone.

Cute, in his case, if slightly annoying. In his case, obviously, he is only 3, so it is to be expected, and I assume he'll grow out of it.

In Hamish's/Spartacus' case? Hmm.

Some little boys never do grow up.

sss555s

carolt wrote: »

An interesting idea, though I'd rather see solutions that are win-win, than win-lose, whether one is personally the winner or the loser.

Suggstions like picking up litter, say, seem pretty win-win, unless one is a really utterly lazy sod.

Or bringing more manufacturing home - that seems pretty win-win to me.

I get Linton's idea that suggesting things that are better for the "whole" rather than what seems a good idea just for the person suggesting.

When you say picking up litter is win-win do you mean win for the person dropping it and win for the person picking it up?

And manufacturing is a competitive World problem and we are hardly "changing the World" if we think the best thing is to just bring it to the UK regardless whether it's right or wrong.

What about an idea to change the system where unemployed young mums (just kids themselves) are encouraged to have children to get a house and handouts?

Is it not possible to encourage them to be creative, have self worth and to train or enable them to start work?

peterg1965

lostinrates wrote: »

I think we should all do a year of National srvice. ot necessarily forces but something (cleaning at a hospital or buses, filing for the the local government, maintaining public parks/spaces: there is a lot we could do with degrees of skill). I think we enter adult hood not appreciating what we have already received from our parents and the country (access to education healthcare etc) and it would be good to have a sense of paying some of that back. I also think moving away from a home area broadening horizons even for a short period is healthy. (I think that's a key way in which university is/was traditionally help ful.)

i have long thought a part of education should be following a court case through, connecting with our justice system (in a non punitive way nor as a victim).

I think reducing bureaucracy would encourage a greater sense of freedom and ...um...forgotten the word...er um...resourcefulness.

(tbh carolt I could do this all day ideas of a varying degree of rationality so I'll stop there.)

I think that is a great idea. It would have the added benefit, I would hope, of inculcating a sense of responsibility, integrity, a sense of community and pride. Will it ever happen? I wouldn't bet my pension on it.

wageslave

Tax incentives for volunteer workers in Citizens Advice, charity shops, Red Cross etc.

Or merit badges.

Whatever works best........

fc123

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Yep.

You?

Or are you just another double standard poster?

Do I respond or not? It's Sunday, I have a had a slug of red and am feeling very sorry for myself.

Votes on a poll please.

wageslave

fc123 wrote: »

Do I respond or not? It's Sunday, I have a had a slug of red and am feeling very sorry for myself.

Votes on a poll please.

Don't drink and post.

Take it from one who has woken up the next day completely mortified:o

fc123

wageslave wrote: »

Don't drink and post.

Take it from one who has woken up the next day completely mortified:o

OK advice taken...but he/she really went off on one....

wageslave

fc123 wrote: »

OK advice taken...but he/she really went off on one....

Keyboard warriors honey.

He has likely popped off to do the ironing while his wife reclines on the sofa with the remote control.

tomterm8

Personally, I feel people in rural areas should pay higher road tax, as it only stands to reason that the population density is lower in those areas, and so there are far fewer people to pay for every square mile of road. I'm fed up of us southerners paying for aberdeens roads.