Budget 2010: Budget 2010: Child tax credits up for one and two-year-olds

quintwins

liam8282 wrote: »

I have just had another thought, when my daughter was born they introduced some sort of 1 off bonus payment which was something like £250 for children born after a certain date. We missed out on this by literally a couple of weeks or something. (just found it Health in Pregnancy Grant £190)

Now they are brining in this increase for child benefit for 1 - 2 year olds, from 2012, we will miss out again.

i got that the point of this is to cliam it in late pregnancy and then use it on healthy food, i already eat healthy so i spent it on bits for the baby

smk77

liam8282 wrote: »

My overall opinion on tax credits is, you should only be entitled to a tax credit if you have actually paid enough tax into the system, to take that amount out as a credit.

People who do not work and do not support their own families should only be given the very minimum amount to survive on. Why on earth people are financially better off when they do not work is crazy to me.

Didn't the Labour government introduce tax credits to financially support families with children and in particular, low-income families? The reason for this was to try and eradicate child poverty. Not so that you get out if you've put something in...

liam8282 wrote: »

I resent the fact that people who have never worked a day in their lives can afford to have large families, cars, houses and everything else they want, without actually paying for any of it themselves. Yet people who struggle and work hard seem to have less than those who play the system.

It is just all wrong and needs sorting out.

Here is an interesting article..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-541598/Meet-families-ones-worked-THREE-generations--dont-care.html

I'm sure you'd rather work than be one of these burdens!

I don't see anything wrong in providing for those that don't work and ensuring that their children are given every opportunity in life that other kids have. Unfortunately, these parents who play the system or even worse claim and work on the side need sorting out.

liam8282

They should just bring in the Chinese birth control policy and have done with it. One child per couple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy

(to be fair, this would only be for people who won't work to support any other children though.)

liam8282

smk77 wrote: »

Didn't the Labour government introduce tax credits to financially support families with children and in particular, low-income families? The reason for this was to try and eradicate child poverty. Not so that you get out if you've put something in...

I agree with tax credits supporting families on low incomes, but not tax credits supporting families who choose not to work and choose to use tax credits as there income.

Families like the one in your article make a career out of it.

Indie_Kid

liam8282 wrote: »

I agree with tax credits supporting families on low incomes, but not tax credits supporting families who choose not to work and choose to use tax credits as there income.

Families like the one in your article make a career out of it.

What do you define as a low income?

alwaysonthego_2

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Mrs_Arcanum

When my children were small (before CTC) we were able to live on one wage (didn't have the cost of nappies as I used washable ones) and were in rented accommodation. Now we have a mortgage and children who seem to be both having a growth spurt this is definitely a more expensive time. Sons school charges £2.00 per day for lunch without a drink. Daughters school charges £1.70 for just a bowl of pasta, so they both have packed lunch.

The problem with the system now is for those with more than 3 or 4 children are better off not working which is a ridiculous situation. You should always be better off working.

What the government fails to take into account is the cost of going to & from work, which in the days of yore were much smaller as most people lived near their workplace. In the 80's we were all encouraged to "get on yer bike" to find work so people travel much further to work than ever before.

liam8282

sh1305 wrote: »

What do you define as a low income?

A very rough guide would be:

From October 2010, National Minimum Wage rates will increase from:
£5.80 to £5.93 an hour for workers aged 22 and over

so say an average working week is 35 hours x 52 x 5.93 = £10,792.60

Any total benefit claims should be less than this to encourage people to work. As for those families with 6 kids and getting £30,000 a year, it is just scandalous.

If people are working they should get more help towards childcare etc, than those that don't. (I know when we were paying for our son to go to nursery, other kids were there whose parents didn't work and they got the nursery place paid fully paid for in their benefits.)

The list of problems is too long to go through.

This is only very brief answer to your question.

scootw1

alwaysonthego wrote: »

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To be fair to everyone, MSE Guy started this thread and said it was a discussion thread so it should be in the Discussion Forum

scootw1

sunnyone wrote: »

In the hot bags and classrooms conbined with bags being chucked around any prepacked lunch is nasty by lunch time, its not like primary where there is lunch storage areas or the kids arnt carrying there lunches around.

My sons friend also had his lunch tampered with in there first year at seniors, his sandwich was rubbed on the gym floor and since then none of his year take packed lunches.

I would prefer for my son to leave school during lunch time and for him to go to the local deli but thats not allowed, only local kids can leave the school grounds for lunch.

There are such things as cooler bags, clingfilm and lunchboxes you know. I used to take mine in a lunchbox when I was young. And the kids don't need to throw their bags around either. Why don't you just tell your child to be careful?

There should be absolutely no need to pay £20 a week for food (that works out at £4 per lunch). It just takes a bit of planning to get packed lunches done for them and for the child to be careful with it.