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Budget 2010: Budget 2010: Child tax credits up for one and two-year-olds

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  • Indie_Kid
    Indie_Kid Posts: 23,097 Forumite
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    emweaver wrote: »
    wow an extra £4 a week lol they are being generous altho it does annoy me what about everyone else ? under 1s get more as it is by £10 a week (ish) i know they say babies cost more to keep due to nappies, constantly growin so need new clothes etc but tbh ive found it gets more expensive as they get older! they need clothes just as much as they still grow, things get ruined out playing, coats etc get lost at playschool, park, shoes are another expense! they need stiumlatin more which costs money either on toys, books, trips out etc food is more expensive than a bottle of formula!

    People managed before all these benefits came in; so why not now?
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  • krisskross
    krisskross Posts: 7,677 Forumite
    sh1305 wrote: »
    People managed before all these benefits came in; so why not now?

    Our children almost certainly didn't have as much as today's children but what they had we worked and paid for ourselves. No huge Government handouts. I honestly cannot believe some of the figures quoted on here that are received in CTC plus generous child benefit. In a lot of cases the children are financially supporting the parents.
  • liam8282
    liam8282 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
    sunnyone wrote: »
    My son is 13 and he pays 60p for a slice of toast without butter at his school canteen, its 5p for the butter, it costs over £20 per week to feed him enough of the rubbish expensive fare that his school produces and hes still starving when he gets into the car at hometime so I always make him a sandwich and have a drink ready for him.

    he then eats a huge evening meal at night, he growing fast and he need lots of good food and not 3 bean wraps that cost £2 from the school.

    Can't he have his breakfast before he goes to school?
  • ged1980
    ged1980 Posts: 1,342 Forumite
    I'm not putting everyone in that category at all but just speaking generally.
    But my personal opinion is that this government like them all Tories included, are very crafty. They WANT people with children to be dependent on THEM. It means more votes for THEM.


    Agree 100%

    No matter if its labour or the tories they are as bad as each other look back to the 80's and the last tory goverment and look at todays labour goverment as bad as each other.
    If you dont like me remember its mind over matter, I dont mind and you dont matter ;)
  • liam8282
    liam8282 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
    FluffyFiFi wrote: »
    According to this we are all wrong and the most expensive time is when they go to university

    http://www.uknetguide.co.uk/Finance/Article/Cost_Of_Bringing_Up_A_Child-100097.html

    The first year is the most costly, probably due to buying all the new equipment.

    My children (11 and 14) cost me more now than they did when they were babies but I suppose it is different for everyone and depends on personal circumstances.

    When "Children" go to University, are they not classed as adults, minimum age is 17 but most are 18 plus. Can't these "children" get a job and support themselves?
  • liam8282
    liam8282 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
    My overall opinion on tax credits is, you should only be entitled to a tax credit if you have actually paid enough tax into the system, to take that amount out as a credit.

    People who do not work and do not support their own families should only be given the very minimum amount to survive on. Why on earth people are financially better off when they do not work is crazy to me.

    I resent the fact that people who have never worked a day in their lives can afford to have large families, cars, houses and everything else they want, without actually paying for any of it themselves. Yet people who struggle and work hard seem to have less than those who play the system.

    It is just all wrong and needs sorting out.
  • Do you know krisskross, ungrateful was the word that sprang to my mind too.

    People get SO much just for having children these days, they should be pleased they are so well looked after.

    When they are born they get money for savings, there is extra money now for 1-2 year-olds, when they are three they get money for nursery, there is money at any age for child care, as well as the associated Tax Credts etc.

    I personally don't see why there should be anything above the basic Child Benefit, other than for the very poorest of people (and 'poor' does not mean £25k a year).


    i agree me and my oh are living on 11000 ayear thats working tax and child tax included. but we dont recive any other benefits like free childcare for our daughter
  • JimmyTheWig
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    £4 a week whohoo

    Will just about cover the cider increase

    Does anyone else think the government should run a voluntary scheme whereby we can return the cheques they send in favour of helping those who need it. Standing in the bank for a few pound cheque rarely is worth the time.
    I don't understand this post.
    Who gets cheques these days??
    And in ant case, it's £4 a week on top of what you would get anyway, so it's not any more effort than it currently is.

    I would suggest that donating the money to charity would be the nearest equivalent to what you are wanting to do. If that's what you want to do with your benefits, then good for you.
  • moomoomama27
    moomoomama27 Posts: 3,823 Forumite
    liam8282 wrote: »
    My overall opinion on tax credits is, you should only be entitled to a tax credit if you have actually paid enough tax into the system, to take that amount out as a credit.

    People who do not work and do not support their own families should only be given the very minimum amount to survive on. Why on earth people are financially better off when they do not work is crazy to me.

    I resent the fact that people who have never worked a day in their lives can afford to have large families, cars, houses and everything else they want, without actually paying for any of it themselves. Yet people who struggle and work hard seem to have less than those who play the system.

    It is just all wrong and needs sorting out.

    I totally agree with you on this point! It makes a mockery of the hard working parents, who do pay into the system, when we are worse off than the lazy lay-abouts who intend to use their children as a meal ticket, and then miraculously pop out another each time their benefits are threatened!

    Sometimes my husband and I wonder why we work. Using the entitledto calculations, we are £19 a month better off both working! Shocking! If we didn't have any morals or want to set a good example to our three children, we may as well lose the £19 and sit on our !!!!!! all day!
  • Indie_Kid
    Indie_Kid Posts: 23,097 Forumite
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    I totally agree with you on this point! It makes a mockery of the hard working parents, who do pay into the system, when we are worse off than the lazy lay-abouts who intend to use their children as a meal ticket, and then miraculously pop out another each time their benefits are threatened!

    Sometimes my husband and I wonder why we work. Using the entitledto calculations, we are £19 a month better off both working! Shocking! If we didn't have any morals or want to set a good example to our three children, we may as well lose the £19 and sit on our !!!!!! all day!

    Does it actually work out as £19 by the time you factor in council tax benefit, LHA / mortgage payments, prescriptions, etc?
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