Is Deliberately Starving Millions of the Populace to death A Good Thing

Mr.Brown_4

Ireland. Potatoes. English Monarchy. Not renowned for Communist tendencies.

Sir_Humphrey

I think Kennyboy sums it up very well. It is easy to look at these things with the benefit of hindsight.

My opinion of Communism is similar to that of the Socialist (and Labour Party member at the time of the founding of the welfare state) George Orwell. I also share his view of Capitalism; that left unchecked it leads to oligopoly.

Masomnia

ukcarper wrote: »

Isnt that the point in theory

I just don't get what's good about the theory. It's easy to say 'Oh it's good in theory but it wouldn't actually work', but what's good about it?

ninky_2

Generali wrote: »

Time is getting on over here and I might just take your advice.

I just thought it would be interesting to test an old hypothesis of many UK-based Communists - that the failings of Communism were due to the failings of Men rather than of Communism.

Did you vote that perhaps 50,000,000 dead were worthwhile as part of a failed political experiment? One person did.

this poll has something of the communist election about it.

maybe the one person who voted pressed the wrong button or was on a windup??

how many threads do we need on this?

no one is saying communism is great. that doesn't mean capitalism is great.

can i vote spoiled ballot paper....

ninky_2

Generali wrote: »

Perhaps he changed his mind. I was a member of the Labour Party aged 16 or at least I would have been had they been able to get their act together to process my application.

are you suggesting the labour party is communist? imo they are more capitalist than communist.

is thinking that we need state intervention to protect to weakest member of society communist?

is having an nhs communist?

or state education?

ukcarper

Masomnia wrote: »

I just don't get what's good about the theory. It's easy to say 'Oh it's good in theory but it wouldn't actually work', but what's good about it?

We wouldn’t have had the bank crisis for one thing

Sapphire

ukcarper wrote: »

We wouldn’t have had the bank crisis for one thing

No – you would have had a lot of things that are much worse.

sss555s

What would the housing situation be like in the UK if all those poor souls had survived and a % of them and their descendent's had arrived on our doorstep?

I just don't think the World is fertile enough to cope with the rate humans breed so there is always going to be casualty's or it wouldn't work, unless we learn to spread out a bit more in the land we have.

What if Hit[er had won and wiped out all us Brits and used the UK as a place to send all the criminals from his homeland?

Wouldn't have been the first time that had happened!


It just seems that when someone who is so power hungry, greedy and evil gets into a position of control then it isn't going to be pretty. Fortunately there is systems in place to not let these things get out of hand so much at the moment.

drc

The grass is always greener...

In my experience of meeting people who grew up under Communism in East Germany and Poland they hate Communism with a passion and love being "free" whereas those that have grown up with all the freedoms of the West tend to have a romanticised view of Communism. Then again, they haven't had to see the negative aspects of it, only those of evil Capitalism and they don't see the irony of being able to criticise their own governments/leaders/political systems and extolling the virutes of Stalin/Lenin/Mao without fear of being dumped in a gulag or silenced by the Stasi.

Kohoutek

What example is there of a communist country where the 'revolutionaries' have not turned into a clique, creating oligarchical rule?

I can't think of a single one. For example, in revolutionary Russia, one of the first acts of the Bolsheviks was to destroy the independence of the 'soviets' (a more radical version of trade union) and start centralising all power to the Bolshevik party apparatus.