Is Deliberately Starving Millions of the Populace to death A Good Thing

Generali

Lots of Communist dictatorships starved millions of their populations to death:

- Stalin apparently deliberately created a famine that killed up to 10,000,000 in the Ukraine alone and easily the same again in Russia (link)
- Mao killed between 20,000,000 and 43,000,000 in famines caused by collectivisation (link - official Chinese figures were 13,000,000 at the time)
- The Cambodian democide caused the deaths of an estimated 2,000,000, half of whom died in the famines.

What do you think of people that sympathise with and promote these causes?

Sir_Humphrey

I think you need to have a nice lie-down old chap.

Dave101t

your looking at one facet of very complicated people who shaped the entire culture of their continents.
didnt we butcher thousands for no less than refusing christianity? just because our horrors are mostly past memory doesnt make them less significant.
the British also invented concentration camps.....

abaxas

How about a society that allows no-one to own anything as it's all owned by one person?

Masomnia

People do often say that Communism's good in theory, so I ask them exactly in what way. 'Umm... well...'

Has any communist government ever been voted in? Genuine question, because I can't think of any. How many of them have free and fair elections in which the population are asked 'do you want a communist system?', it just doesn't happen.

Communism is always forced on people and strips them of their freedom and right to pursue whatever goals they choose.

Generali

Sir_Humphrey wrote: »

I think you need to have a nice lie-down old chap.

Time is getting on over here and I might just take your advice.

I just thought it would be interesting to test an old hypothesis of many UK-based Communists - that the failings of Communism were due to the failings of Men rather than of Communism.

Did you vote that perhaps 50,000,000 dead were worthwhile as part of a failed political experiment? One person did.

drc

Generali wrote: »

What do you think of people that sympathise with and promote these causes?

Aren't most of them middle-class students?

Masomnia

drc wrote: »

Aren't most of them middle-class students?

They are in my experience, yes

Kohoutek

drc wrote: »

Aren't most of them middle-class students?

People like this?

Generali

drc wrote: »

Aren't most of them middle-class students?

I've met plenty of middle aged or elderly people that genuinely believe in various forms of Communist rule. A late Uncle of mine for example.

Middle class students and post-students seem to make up a disproportionate number of Communists it should be said.

If only Stalin had stuck to smoking pot in his bedsit.......

Sir_Humphrey

Rupert Murdoch famously had a bust of Lenin in his room as a student.

So presumably he's a Commie as well.