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Age 7 government child trust fund payments not being released!!!
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Oh,but don't forget...you clearly have to pay for enough items to last a long period of time.I mean,child tax credits and child benefit aren't for that.
What is CTC for those on benefits and low income?Is it around £60 a week plus an extra £10 a week for babies under one,then £20 CB?That provides everything else needed for a baby once it's born,it's not as if you need to spend that on food etc for them is it!
I'm guessing idiots like you, don't factor in perhaps people's housing needs might change? A reduction in income whilst on maternity too? Never mind the rest of the costs of childrearing?
Oh wait sorry, I forgot, you've costed this all, professionally, as of course government agencies forgot to do it. Silly old me *facepalm*All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
No.I pointed out it can be done and said that others have done it,including myself.You and the other plank kept going on and on and on about it and I responded telling you how idiotic you were being.There's a difference (you may want to look that word up in a dictionary)
That's amazing, I'm sure the treasury will be in touch for details of your supplier of second hand goods, so they can price up the average costs of kitting out a newborn.
Really, stand by the phone. :rotfl::rotfl:All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
She-girl posted some links to stuff - after I'd asked if it really costs that much for baby equipment. babies are expensive as you want them to be.
That's true, fortunately we have people that calculate the average cost though, and plan maternity grants accordingly. just to save on the old "put them in a drawer, they don't need a cot" routine, if nothing else.All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
If you look at the most essential things (rather than adding things they will have when older or things you just fancy),this is what you could get from Argos and there will be cheaper items around too.So this is the NEW cost:
Baby car seat £23.99 (was £29.99) http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3764879.htm
Cot £59.99 http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3763791.htm
Bath,Top and Tail Bowl,Bath Support and Thermometer £19.99 http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0985242.htm
Buggy £49.99 http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3765548/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CNursery%7C14417537/c_2/3%7C15701330%7CPushchairs%2C+prams+and+carriers%7C14417542/c_3/4%7Ccat_14417542%7CPushchairs%7C14417543.htm
Bouncer (not 100% essential but everyone has them lol) £12.79
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3753794/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CNursery%7C14417537/c_2/3%7C15701330%7CBaby+toys%7C14417556/c_3/4%7Ccat_14417556%7CBaby+bouncers+and+swings%7C14417557.htm
For some reason can't view the cot mattresses on there.
So all the above for £166.75 then add on a cot mattress,cot bedding which can be bought quite cheaply in shops (or made yourself even cheaper lol),changing mat(£9.99 at argos but again can be bought cheaper),baby moniter I guess (£22.99 at argos) and then obviously clothes,nappies and little bits...steralizer and bottles if bottle feeding.
So in reality not £500,even for new,is needed!
IT can easily be done on less.It's down to choice really isn't it and many choose more expensive things.And,to be perfectly honest,if a parent cannot put any money at all towards any of those things (including clothes -primarini,charity shops all exsist) then they shouldn't be having a baby
LMAO @ the argos tat. Yeah I can see a £49.99 buggy being a right bargain mind you. I promise the wheels won't fall off after a week. I bought an argos bargain buggy once. I didn't even get it out of the shop before I had to take it back for a refund.
Never mind the cot doesn't even have a mattress.
Well done, really you've costed up about £200 worth of tat. Even second hand you'd get better value than that. Never mind it's only a fraction of the *what the goverment states is* the needs of newborn.
A baby monitor that actually works, is upward of £50. (mine was a phillips that cost over £100 - after taking back several useless cheaper models that couldn't monitor a disco in a nightclub).
Just a point to note for the holier-that-thou crowd, when recently donating some unwanted furniture to my local 'waste not' shop (who offer second hand furniture to low income people), they wouldn't take any baby furniture or equipment, as they weren't allowed to, incase any of it was faulty and caused accidents etc etc.
LMAO @ the righteous idiot telling people to abort their babies if they can't afford them.
And she claimes to reside on Planet Earth hahahaAll over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »LMAO @ the argos tat. Yeah I can see a £49.99 buggy being a right bargain mind you. I promise the wheels won't fall off after a week. I bought an argos bargain buggy once. I didn't even get it out of the shop before I had to take it back for a refund.
Never mind the cot doesn't even have a mattress.
Well done, really you've costed up about £200 worth of tat. Even second hand you'd get better value than that. Never mind it's only a fraction of the *what the goverment states is* the needs of newborn.
A baby monitor that actually works, is upward of £50. (mine was a phillips that cost over £100 - after taking back several useless cheaper models that couldn't monitor a disco in a nightclub).
Just a point to note for the holier-that-thou crowd, when recently donating some unwanted furniture to my local 'waste not' shop (who offer second hand furniture to low income people), they wouldn't take any baby furniture or equipment, as they weren't allowed to, incase any of it was faulty and caused accidents etc etc.
LMAO @ the righteous idiot telling people to abort their babies if they can't afford them.
And she claimes to reside on Planet Earth hahaha
What the hell are you on about?
And sorry,but your 'only baby moniters over £50' and comments like that are absurd and complete rubbish!
If you have such a low income you need to government to give you money to buy baby things you buy the cheapest you can get.
Half the reason people get in such a mess these days it because they never learn to budget and can't tell the difference between need and want...giving too much money just assists that attitudeIf women are birds and freedom is flight are trapped women Dodos?0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »Wow, now poor people all smoke, drink and eat curries?
Come on Deepmistrust where has your sense of humour gone???????????????0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »LMAO @ the argos tat. Yeah I can see a £49.99 buggy being a right bargain mind you. I promise the wheels won't fall off after a week. I bought an argos bargain buggy once. I didn't even get it out of the shop before I had to take it back for a refund.
Never mind the cot doesn't even have a mattress.
Well done, really you've costed up about £200 worth of tat. Even second hand you'd get better value than that. Never mind it's only a fraction of the *what the goverment states is* the needs of newborn.
A baby monitor that actually works, is upward of £50. (mine was a phillips that cost over £100 - after taking back several useless cheaper models that couldn't monitor a disco in a nightclub).
Just a point to note for the holier-that-thou crowd, when recently donating some unwanted furniture to my local 'waste not' shop (who offer second hand furniture to low income people), they wouldn't take any baby furniture or equipment, as they weren't allowed to, incase any of it was faulty and caused accidents etc etc.
LMAO @ the righteous idiot telling people to abort their babies if they can't afford them.
And she claimes to reside on Planet Earth hahaha
Who was it that said and I quote "Anecdotal tales do not amount to very much.Your own experience is always going to be limited"0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »LMAO @ the argos tat. Yeah I can see a £49.99 buggy being a right bargain mind you. I promise the wheels won't fall off after a week. I bought an argos bargain buggy once. I didn't even get it out of the shop before I had to take it back for a refund.
Never mind the cot doesn't even have a mattress.
Well done, really you've costed up about £200 worth of tat. Even second hand you'd get better value than that. Never mind it's only a fraction of the *what the goverment states is* the needs of newborn.
A baby monitor that actually works, is upward of £50. (mine was a phillips that cost over £100 - after taking back several useless cheaper models that couldn't monitor a disco in a nightclub).
Just a point to note for the holier-that-thou crowd, when recently donating some unwanted furniture to my local 'waste not' shop (who offer second hand furniture to low income people), they wouldn't take any baby furniture or equipment, as they weren't allowed to, incase any of it was faulty and caused accidents etc etc.
LMAO @ the righteous idiot telling people to abort their babies if they can't afford them.
And she claimes to reside on Planet Earth hahaha
My experience quite different.I bought an expensive pram, had to keep taking it back.In the end got a refund and bought a cheap one and had no problems with it.I most certainly did not spend anywhere near £500 and tried to save money wherever I could(bought cot that converted into bed).there are many nearly new (lets face it how long are babies in these things for) things for sale in the papers etc. My nephew and his wife got a beautiful cot from the paper for a fraction of the cost new and a lot of stuff from the local charity shop, cleaned up like new.0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »That's true, fortunately we have people that calculate the average cost though, and plan maternity grants accordingly. just to save on the old "put them in a drawer, they don't need a cot" routine, if nothing else.
Back to those draws again I see!!!!!!!!! You really are obsessed with them.0 -
What the hell are you on about?
And sorry,but your 'only baby moniters over £50' and comments like that are absurd and complete rubbish!
If you have such a low income you need to government to give you money to buy baby things you buy the cheapest you can get.
Half the reason people get in such a mess these days it because they never learn to budget and can't tell the difference between need and want...giving too much money just assists that attitude
You are clearly mightly angry, for no other reason that you can't accept that a bargain argos (probably rickety) pram for £49.99 isn't going to suit everyones needs. How do you know what the usuage of the pram is going to be? How do you know how many miles a person needs to walk a day, and needs a comfortable pram (to push for them, as well for baby) to do it with?
Clearly if the government offers a decent £500 that increases peoples CHOICE (google choice, without getting upset that other people can have choice too), to purchase equipment that is decent quality and suits their needs.
*awaits another babble of tears wah wah wahing that people getting the same grant you did, get more money than you*All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0
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