Age 7 government child trust fund payments not being released!!!

seven-day-weekend

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

I admire your sentiments but this is one benefit that I would not like to see axed.The price of electricity etc. is rising all the time and I do not want to see
older people being cold/dying because they can't afford the heating.Babies will not die if their mothers do not get £250 to invest for them when they are 18 or £500 to spend on baby things.

Maybe retain the Heating Allowance for the very poorest pensioners.

daska

I'd cut all the add on perks which are automatically paid if you qualify for an 'income related' benefit but which can't be claimed for on means tested grounds by someone receiving the 'contribution based' equivalent.

Indie_Kid

daska wrote: »

I'd cut all the add on perks which are automatically paid if you qualify for an 'income related' benefit but which can't be claimed for on means tested grounds by someone receiving the 'contribution based' equivalent.

Bit unfair on those who have had no choice but to not pay into the system.

Killmark

sh1305 wrote: »

Bit unfair on those who have had no choice but to not pay into the system.

Just as the current system can be unfair to those who have paid in.

Only way to ensure fairness would be to equalise contribution and means tested benefits.

However won't happen because it would be too expensive.

CFC

shegirl wrote: »

Car seat,I don't know about now,but when I had my son you weren't allowed to leave hospital without a car seat.

Buggy isn't really isn't,there are carriers too.

Bath...well there are other ways such as bath supports in normal bath etc

Top and tail bowl...anything could be used.

I'd say a cot is pretty essential though!

So now a car is essential too? :rotfl:

Back on topic - I'm glad they've pulled the CTF. Waste of money. Now for the EMA next I hope....

daska

sh1305 wrote: »

Bit unfair on those who have had no choice but to not pay into the system.

In what way? I'm talking about the perks which the people who have paid into the system aren't allowed to claim - cutting these would actually mean that claiments would be treated equally. At the moment CR based claiments get treated less favourably than someone in exactly the same financial position who has never worked.

Indie_Kid

daska wrote: »

In what way? I'm talking about the perks which the people who have paid into the system aren't allowed to claim - cutting these would actually mean that claiments would be treated equally. At the moment CR based claiments get treated less favourably than someone in exactly the same financial position who has never worked.

There is nothing to stop someone on CB benefits filling in a HC1 form - help with health costs.

POPPYOSCAR

Deepmistrust wrote: »

It can be done, you can find if you are lucky good second hand stuff. But it can't be relied on, and if everyone bought second hand, then the price would increase anyay, and the availability would fall. Like I said, it's also personal choice, I personally wouldn't use (and nor is it recommened) a second hand mattress.

Some parents would want a cot-bed to save on future bed costs - but the initial cost of these are more expensive.

I have an idea, why don't the people who are whining about the cost of the sure start grant, write to the DWP for details of how the £500 was reached?

Instead of whining and telling people to scour second hand shops in the off-chance of finding a decent pram for a bargain price, this might be a bit more productive, and - heaven forbid - enlightening too?

I didn't say to scour the second hand shops for a decent pram, there is no need,there are plenty of new decent (non designer) prams available quite cheaply to buy.And your attitude is part of the problem in our society(why should I have to have second hand, I want new and someone else should pay for it)No one has a right to have things just because someone else has got them.It can be fun finding a bargain, why don't you try it some time!

shegirl

CFC wrote: »

So now a car is essential too? :rotfl:

Back on topic - I'm glad they've pulled the CTF. Waste of money. Now for the EMA next I hope....

No.

When I had my son you weren't allowed to leave hospital without a car seat.I'd assume it's because people generally go home from hospital with their baby via a car,whether that be their own,a friends or a taxi.Doubt many people would walk home or stand out waiting for a bus with a baby that's just been born....

Deepmistrust

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

I didn't say to scour the second hand shops for a decent pram, there is no need,there are plenty of new decent (non designer) prams available quite cheaply to buy.And your attitude is part of the problem in our society(why should I have to have second hand, I want new and someone else should pay for it)No one has a right to have things just because someone else has got them.It can be fun finding a bargain, why don't you try it some time!

I have no need to scour second hand fortunately. I tend to find I'm the one giving (or selling) prams away.

And, like I've already pointed out, I could name a few bargain ones, that weren't bargain ones at all. A few designer ones, which where utter rubbish, and I could even name the middle-priced one, which was fantastic (I do a lot of walking, some of which is over countryside, so for my needs, a three wheeler, easy to push all-terrain was essential for the school run). I wouldn't expect a person on a low income to make the same daily journey I do, on a rickety £45 argos pram, and for that pram to last more than 5 minutes. Get real. I'm in the fortunate position of understanding that not everyones needs are the same. I have no doubt the bargain pram will suit some families, but they still have to provide a cot, wardrobe, ( or do you want the baby's secondhand clothes to be stored in bin-liners?), steriliser, bottles, clothing, bedding, nappies (real nappies - which the government has to promote, include an initial outlay of about £100 alone).

I have no idea why the self-righteous brigade are opposed to newborn babies of low-income families being granted some basics. Luckily, I'm not that spiteful, I don't feel that way. But then, I often work with the Sure Start childrens centres, so I see when people struggle on low incomes that this kind of help is always appreciated.

And again, you need to differentiate between ad-homimen, and the argument based upon principle. I have no idea why you think *I* need to scour second hand shops for prams, that I have no need for, in anyway.

The fact remains, the government does not cost the maternity grant based upon the single bargain pram from Argos, nor the occasionally available second hand cot (and un-recommended Mattress).

The Social Fund is not about to be scrapped. (Though no doubt some of those more stalwart Tory-voters on here would like that). So quibbering about the cost of items, and scrubbing around looking for a cheaper pram in argos, is irrelevant, to all but A. those that cost the price of goods for Government policy and B. those benefitting from grants from the Social funds. Both groups (A + will have a criteria, they have to meet, which no one on here seems capable of comprehending.

Time to get over it.