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Age 7 government child trust fund payments not being released!!!

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  • shegirl
    shegirl Posts: 10,107 Forumite
    cocksucker wrote: »
    An absurd Labour concept, correctly axed.

    Coudln't agree more!

    So,dare I ask if you spit or swallow?:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
    If women are birds and freedom is flight are trapped women Dodos?
  • Deepmistrust
    Deepmistrust Posts: 1,205 Forumite
    POPPYOSCAR wrote: »
    Only if they stop smoking, drinking and give up the kebabs and curries!!!!!

    Actually this already happens,its called surragacy. And many pensioners are unpaid childminders to their grandchildren.


    Wow, now poor people all smoke, drink and eat curries?
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
  • Deepmistrust
    Deepmistrust Posts: 1,205 Forumite
    sh1305 wrote: »
    Realistically, (ignoring multiple births) how much does equipment cost for a newborn baby?


    Depends what they need to start with. Most people will need some furniture such as a wardrobe and a cot. Equipment such as a steriliser, changing mat etc. Real nappies cost about £100 to get started, bedding, clothing, baby bath, bottles, teats, bibs, highchair, some kind of bouncer chair, pram, perhaps a car seat, nappies, babygrows, basic clothing, perhaps coats or quilted all-in-ones. Hats, gloves etc (depending on time of year).

    Easily about £500 on a tighter budget, though I spent more like £1,000.
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
  • Deepmistrust
    Deepmistrust Posts: 1,205 Forumite
    mary671 wrote: »
    Ok. & thanks for your facts that you posted. (I was wrong in my assumption about when welfare started). I don't feel I was discriminating between young and old .. this post was about the child trust fund hence my views on that. I do have views about pensions which I will post in the relevant section. I do have an open mind as well but think your posts were derogarory towards pensioners.... you equally have no facts to prove how much they have provided.

    Hello Mary, not the first time your assumptions have been way off track ;)

    In seriousness, the link between pensioners and pregnant women in need is about as relevant as global temperatures and piracy on the high seas.
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
  • shegirl
    shegirl Posts: 10,107 Forumite
    Depends what they need to start with. Most people will need some furniture such as a wardrobe and a cot. Equipment such as a steriliser, changing mat etc. Real nappies cost about £100 to get started, bedding, clothing, baby bath, bottles, teats, bibs, highchair, some kind of bouncer chair, pram, perhaps a car seat, nappies, babygrows, basic clothing, perhaps coats or quilted all-in-ones. Hats, gloves etc (depending on time of year).

    Easily about £500 on a tighter budget, though I spent more like £1,000.

    It can be done on WAY less than £500.

    And since when does a newborn need things such as a highchair?
    If women are birds and freedom is flight are trapped women Dodos?
  • Indie_Kid
    Indie_Kid Posts: 23,097 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Clothing isn't that expensive either.
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  • Deepmistrust
    Deepmistrust Posts: 1,205 Forumite
    shegirl wrote: »
    It can be done on WAY less than £500.

    And since when does a newborn need things such as a highchair?

    Oh right, sorry I didn't realise you thought the money had to only serve to provide for the first couple of weeks of a childs life. A highchair is generally needed at about 6 months of age.

    I can also be done on a lot more than £500. I don't understand the point of your question?

    Are you asking the baseline cheapest that equipment etc can be sourced for?
    In that case, I guess if you had the internet, and a bank account, and were willing to travel countless miles to get secondhand goods, you could do it for slightly less.
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
  • Deepmistrust
    Deepmistrust Posts: 1,205 Forumite
    edited 28 May 2010 at 11:54PM
    sh1305 wrote: »
    Clothing isn't that expensive either.

    :TYes, clothing isn't *that* expensive. But, one babygrow isn't quite enough for a baby that is repeatadly sick or leaky the other end (ditto the need for extra bedding). Nor do they tend to stay in the same size for very long.

    In fact my own experience, led me to buy a tumble dryer at about day 7 of newborn arrival.
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
  • Deepmistrust
    Deepmistrust Posts: 1,205 Forumite
    edited 29 May 2010 at 12:42AM
    shegirl wrote: »
    It can be done on WAY less than £500.

    And since when does a newborn need things such as a highchair?

    What are you actually arguing about here anyway?

    You seem to agree on one hand that the principal of Sure Start grants are right, but on the other that the amount (being higher that what you received 11 years ago) is too high.

    I'm betting that the amount was agreed, by greater minds than yours averaging costs of the needs of a baby. Whether or not, you think you could source the equivalent for a few quid less (let's face it, there is only going to be a few quid either way), by rooting through second hand shops, does not make government policy.

    The fact remains, it has been costed that £500 is what, in today's market, is needed for low income familes to meet the needs of a new baby.

    Nonetheless, wibble away on the internet 'till your hearts content, that newborns today get more than your newborn 11 years ago, by all means. Whatever gets your goat.

    :rotfl:
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
  • shegirl
    shegirl Posts: 10,107 Forumite
    What are you actually arguing about here anyway?

    You seem to agree on one hand that the principal of Sure Start grants are right, but on the other that the amount (being higher that what you received 11 years ago) is too high.

    I'm betting that the amount was agreed, by greater minds than yours averaging costs of the needs of a baby. Whether or not, you think you could source the equivalent for a few quid (let's face it, there is only going to be a few quid either way), by rooting through second hand shops, does not make government policy.

    The fact remains, it has been costed that £500 is what, in today's market, is needed for low income familes to meet the needs of a new baby.

    Nonetheless, wibble away on the internet 'till your hearts content, that newborns today get more than your newborn 11 years ago, by all means. Whatever gets your goat.

    :rotfl:

    No,newborns do not get more than my son did,parents get more to 'waste'Get it right ;)

    You really do not get it do you?IT is something that can very easily be cut,cuts need to be made,people need to live within their means (even if they have a little bit of help) and realise that in order to have what you want in life you have to actually work for it!

    The only people 'wibbling' are you and the other idiot who refuse to accept that anyone can think of anyone but themselves,do not understand a word anyone says and just keep going over the same bullcrap over and over again.

    I'm going back to my wine and online shopping spree now,so no more ridiculous 'I want to argue for the sake of it' replies thanks.
    If women are birds and freedom is flight are trapped women Dodos?
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