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QT last night - Will Self - what a fool

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  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    Well theres no real debate to be had here with the white horse so I'll duck out of this thread.
    I think I'll go back to not responding to his posts designed to stir the pot. ie all of them.
  • moggylover
    moggylover Posts: 13,324 Forumite
    actually its not. whilst it is certainly a punishment, it is also cheaper. why bother looking after these people (not just thompson and venables, but the likes of fred west, shipman (although they killed themselves) huntley etc etc) - just get rid and job done. no more problem.

    If i wanted eye for eye i would suggest that the death penalty is performed in the style of the original murder.


    And therein lies the final truth! It is ALL about money and absolutely nothing about anything else, not compassion for the victims, nor justice nor even revenge! Just dosh!:(

    That, I find seriously depressing! It's okay folks, doesn't matter if an innocent person gets "put to sleep": Horsey saved 1p in the £1 on his tax bill:(
    "there are some persons in this World who, unable to give better proof of being wise, take a strange delight in showing what they think they have sagaciously read in mankind by uncharitable suspicions of them"
    (Herman Melville)
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    ninky wrote: »
    the talking horse.....

    Of course, of course icon7.gif
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Conrad wrote: »
    Minds me of people like Anne Coulthard, the American journo that says thing like 'just nuke em' when discussing Lebannon. Utterly simplistic, yet she doesn't realise this about herself, and to add to the irony she claims the moral high ground!.

    Assume you mean Anne Coulter?
    It's cos she's a born-again Christian, she believes Jesus Christ is her personal saviour therefore everything she does/says is justified.
  • The_White_Horse
    The_White_Horse Posts: 3,315 Forumite
    if i was in charge of the prisons no one would reoffend. they would kill themselves in the court rather than come back to the hell I would create.
  • The_White_Horse
    The_White_Horse Posts: 3,315 Forumite
    lemonjelly wrote: »
    White Horse refuses to respond to point which contradicts his perspective shocker:eek:

    ok, i have looked into this now - it is not job seekers allowance per se, it is a prison unemployment benefit for prisoners who can't get a job inside. So basically the same thing but a different name. Costs us millions. The MoJ say it prepares them for life outside. hahahaha what a joke.
  • The_White_Horse
    The_White_Horse Posts: 3,315 Forumite
    what if there is no god? can we play god then?
  • moggylover
    moggylover Posts: 13,324 Forumite
    if i was in charge of the prisons no one would reoffend. they would kill themselves in the court rather than come back to the hell I would create.


    Just as a matter of interest Horsey: what do you do for a living?
    "there are some persons in this World who, unable to give better proof of being wise, take a strange delight in showing what they think they have sagaciously read in mankind by uncharitable suspicions of them"
    (Herman Melville)
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    I find it interesting that in this sort of thread even we become intolerant of someone else's views, even if they are abhorant to the majority and expressed in such a way so as seemingly going for maximum impact. I don't mean disagreeing with them, I ean the ease with which we , as a species, slip into gang ridicule.IMO this is as significant a reason why crime will never be obliterated. People, generally, are capable of simply being not very nice, and we push, and push and push at the limits of what count's as acceptable.

    I don't see all his posts but I thought he was proposing killing children :eek: apologies if I got that wrong.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    ok, i have looked into this now - it is not job seekers allowance per se, it is a prison unemployment benefit for prisoners who can't get a job inside. So basically the same thing but a different name. Costs us millions. The MoJ say it prepares them for life outside. hahahaha what a joke.

    it's not the same thing at all. it is £2.50 a week.
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
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