QT last night - Will Self - what a fool

ninky_2

white horse how old are you? i imagine you as a grumpy old [STRIKE]git[/STRIKE] man typing away in tunbridge wells thinking how wonderful if we could all go back to the mythical 1950s when good women stayed indoors baking and wearing pinnies and getting the children ready to greet daddy when he came home from work at the office wearing a bowler hat and a mackintosh.

pinksleepybear

ninky wrote: »

white horse how old are you? i imagine you as a grumpy old [STRIKE]git[/STRIKE] man typing away in tunbridge wells thinking how wonderful if we could all go back to the mythical 1950s when good women stayed indoors baking and wearing pinnies and getting the children ready to greet daddy when he came home from work at the office wearing a bowler hat and a mackintosh.

14 year old girl, living in M4 corridor. Bet you a pound.

shays_mum

Hastily beats a retreat, not before shouting "play nicely now"!!

moggylover

ninky wrote: »

white horse how old are you? i imagine you as a grumpy old [STRIKE]git[/STRIKE] man typing away in tunbridge wells thinking how wonderful if we could all go back to the mythical 1950s when good women stayed indoors baking and wearing pinnies and getting the children ready to greet daddy when he came home from work at the office wearing a bowler hat and a mackintosh.

My bet is on a 20 something unemployed and uneducated BNP skinhead personally:D

Certainly the way he sounds:D

moggylover

The_White_Horse wrote: »

this is the problem with society - the "enlightened" lefty cancer has riddled the body. the lefty is more dangerous than the criminals they seek to protect and excuse.

nothing is a bigger danger to mankind than the smug, self righteous lefty moron.

the best thing for this country is a more right leaning dictatorship. that dictatorship will have a panel of lefties, who they will ask to make all decisions, and then do the opposite. that way, society will flourish. Here is an example:

Oh panel of idiot lefties, these boys have tortured, sexually abused and murdered this toddler. What shall we do?

We have decreed a holiday camp type existence of study, arts and crafts and all these things decent people pay for, and then after 8 years, they can go scott free and be hidden from every decent person at massive expense, paid for by those very same decent people we are hiding them from! however, we have one more trick up our lefty sleeves, if they commit another crime, they will go to prison!!

ok then, so we lock them up for life and throw away the key. brilliant. oh panel of idiot lefties, one question. if any of us commit a crime like hoarding child !!!!!! won't we go to prison anyway?

Yes! This is why we are the council of idiot lefties. That Hitler, he was abused as a child. Its not his fault....

Ok enough now Council Of Idiot Lefties.

Every time I see you type "idiot" I find myself thinking pot: kettle: black:D

You know, your paranoia about the left would be funny if it wasn't so very. very scary to think that people like you are allowed to vote:eek::eek:

Cleaver

The_White_Horse wrote: »

this is the problem with society - the "enlightened" lefty cancer has riddled the body. the lefty is more dangerous than the criminals they seek to protect and excuse.

nothing is a bigger danger to mankind than the smug, self righteous lefty moron.

the best thing for this country is a more right leaning dictatorship. that dictatorship will have a panel of lefties, who they will ask to make all decisions, and then do the opposite. that way, society will flourish. Here is an example:

Oh panel of idiot lefties, these boys have tortured, sexually abused and murdered this toddler. What shall we do?

We have decreed a holiday camp type existence of study, arts and crafts and all these things decent people pay for, and then after 8 years, they can go scott free and be hidden from every decent person at massive expense, paid for by those very same decent people we are hiding them from! however, we have one more trick up our lefty sleeves, if they commit another crime, they will go to prison!!

ok then, so we lock them up for life and throw away the key. brilliant. oh panel of idiot lefties, one question. if any of us commit a crime like hoarding child !!!!!! won't we go to prison anyway?

Yes! This is why we are the council of idiot lefties. That Hitler, he was abused as a child. Its not his fault....

Ok enough now Council Of Idiot Lefties.

Are you okay? Like, really, are you alright?

Everyone here is pretty nice, and we're a laid back bunch when it comes to it. If you feel that you have issues and pyschological barriers that prevent you from speaking with a professional then I'm sure people here would be happy for you to talk. To open up. Whatever issues and difficulties you've faced that have resulted in this rather deranged stream of consciousness ramblings towards a symbolic group of pepole you can share with us. I'm sure it would be really cathartic to discuss in an anonymous way. Have a good pixelated sob. You'll feel pure and cleansed and we can help with that.

We love you White Horse. Whatever has happened in the past doesn't make you a bad person. Remember that.

Charlie94

tomterm8 wrote: »

Criminal Justice Act 1991. The law that also introduced people getting off scot-free after serving half their sentence.

Ha ha Brilliant. It was White horses beloved Maggie that allowed the sentance for the boys and their early release which he so vehemently opposes. I notice White horse has not come back to you on this point!

No lefty is defending the act commiteed , it is abhorrent. You might even find a lot of lefties would want a longer sentance. I definitly think violent crimes should carry longer sentances. However to blame lefties for the sentancing and their release is absurd. The facts speak for themselves and White horse has not got a leg to stand on.

Mr.Brown_4

Charlie94 wrote: »

White horse has not got a leg to stand on.

Well that ruins the image I had of a noble steed, rather than a legless blob.

tbh I am now bored of the story, a week is usually my limit no matter what the subject matter. Someone did something bad - there's not much else in it for me.

never-in-doubt

Running_Horse wrote: »

One thing that confuses me. If I apply for a job I have to disclose any convictions, no matter how minor, until the conviction is spent. Even minor convictions will stop me entering certain professions for life. Are these men able to apply for jobs without telling their employer about their violent past?

I thought one of them had an SIA licence and when probed, it was brushed under the carpet!

"Apparently" when asked if known by any other name in the last 5 years, he answered no (correctly). Therefore he stated no convictions - under that "alias" correctly.

Whether I agree or not, shows the flaws in the system - big time! :mad::mad::mad:

JonnyBravo

The_White_Horse wrote: »

Yes. If they murder and torture, they should be removed from society permanently. Preferably by being put down, as you would with any crazed animal, or by being banged up for life.

The_White_Horse wrote: »

if anyone here had a daughter, and she started seeing a new boy - lets say Bob Smith, and they got on well and you invited him into your home and then, after a while, they get serious and decide to get married, and the powers that be then say "actually you have the right to know that this bloke killed Jamie Bulger" would you be pleased? or would you be pleased if it was kept from you? What if he later murdered or attacked your daughter or grandchild?

Its a messy business and one that could be avoided by having him locked up for life.

I suspect I really should continue to ignore this thread as getting any reasoned debate may be difficult. But please humour me white horse and answer my slightly off topic question. One of the death penalty rather than this particular case.

So you're in favour of the death penalty for such crimes?
You ask others to try to understand how you would feel if your child was murdered etc.

How would you feel if your child/mother/sister etc was wrongly convicted and executed? Any supporter of the death penalty has to be happy to say the benefit to society outweighs the negatives on their child/mother/sister etc in such a scenario to my mind.
Can you do this white horse?