Nice people thread 2 - now even nicer

vivatifosi

misskool wrote: »

And been staring at immigration forms all day. I can assure the detractors that it is indeed very hard to try and stay in this country legally. Perhaps that's why there are so many illegals?

You're not kidding. My cousin, who was born to a British Mum and an Aussie dad but in Australia can only get indefinite leave to remain rather than full citizenship as we can't trace her father. That's in spite of the fact that she's lived here since she was six months old and is now in her forties. She didn't even know she wasn't British until she tried to get a passport and computer firmly said no. Go figure...

Ellie2758

Yes that blessed Codling Moth has got our plums good and proper this year, despite spraying them

Still the raspberries were good while they lasted and the apples are looking to be a bumper crop, again....

misskool wrote: »

found maggots in the plums. Cropping lots of toms

And been staring at immigration forms all day. I can assure the detractors that it is indeed very hard to try and stay in this country legally. Perhaps that's why there are so many illegals?

Ellie2758

Friend of mine has been a type one for over 4 decades. All was going fine till last year she had a heart attack. Now she is all over the place with her glucose level, trying to keep it down then overdoing it and putting herself in danger of a hypo. To add to that she has potential sight problems, according to her consultant. It is as if everything has gone wrong at once. She is a nurse and has always been vigilant about controlling her insulin intake. I wonder whether it is menopause-related. Her heart attack came completely out of the blue, there were none of the warning signs that her consultant had told her would appear years before a heart attack could occur.

JonnyBravo wrote: »

Yep. Real car crash TV.
So many people with diabetes only understand the gravity of the situation once they reach Keith's position. By then of course it is too late.
Made me truly cross to see all the wasted time from missed appt's. Nothing I didn't know already, but maddening all the same.
These people will be the first to bleat when the NHS collapses under the weight (perhaps literally? ) of these idle t0$$ers.

Insulin is undoubtedly one of the hardest regimes you have to undertake as a patient. You, ideally, have to monitor and dose adjust yourself. No doubt some aren't capable of doing this effectively, but the vast majority just don't bother. They can't be ar$-ed.
Until, they go blind, have an amputation, have their kidneys fail, have a stroke etc etc. Then it's the good ol' taxpayers problem.

:mad:

SingleSue

Hubby's biggest fear was always kidney failure as he saw a good friend go through that as a youngster and eventually die from it but touch wood, his kidney function is still ok (we do still keep in touch).

He did start to develop retinopathy while we were together although I am not sure how that has progressed since plus he also had neuropathy in his extremeties and erectile disfunction (that caused some panic I can tell you, never forget the specialist telling me that my husband would likely not be around in 2 years time....he was right about the 2 years but not about the cause!)

I myself got used to going to hospitals for appointments and visiting, speaking with specialists and having no sleep..pretty much ideal for when we had the boys then!

lemonjelly

Interestingly Sue, on reading your posts, there is a lot of "we" and "I" in them.

Which makes me wonder how he'd have coped/developed strategies and the like without your support? Not saying he wouldn't have, but there is a clear implication of teamwork & shared responsibilities in your posting.

My dad has been diabetic for 30 years. It was all fine until he had what we believe (though has never been confirmed) was a heart attack. Evere since then, managing his blood sugar levels has been a major problem. He went from injecting twice a day, to 4 times a day, constant blood monitoring etc. No success. He now has a pump fitted, which does appear to be working well.

Kinda feels wierd though, knowing he's fitted up with a machine keeping him alive.

(That is a teensy weensy bit overdramatic, but I take poetic licence in trying to highlight a point.)

John_Pierpoint

JonnyBravo wrote: »

Made me truly cross to see all the wasted time from missed appt's. Nothing I didn't know already, but maddening all the same.
These people will be the first to bleat when the NHS collapses under the weight (perhaps literally? ) of these idle t0$$ers.

Insulin is undoubtedly one of the hardest regimes you have to undertake as a patient. You, ideally, have to monitor and dose adjust yourself. No doubt some aren't capable of doing this effectively, but the vast majority just don't bother. They can't be ar$-ed.
Until, they go blind, have an amputation, have their kidneys fail, have a stroke etc etc. Then it's the good ol' taxpayers problem.

:mad:

I bet they know how to fill in a lottery entry though; and manage to do that on time?.

SingleSue

He would have been as before...his mum helping him.

It was his mum who helped him when he had his hypos, his mum who took him to the appointments, his mum who over pandered him. At the time though, he only had the diabetes, the addisons was diagnosed after we had moved in together and had been living together for nearly a year and it was the addisons that made the diabetes more complicated to control.

When he moved back to the porcine insulin, things did improve with his control of blood sugars, especially as he could adapt his units to what he was eating (he moved from a morning and evening injection to an injection before each time he ate) and his hypos lessened and he was then able to retain his driving license (albeit on a 2 year license and only with his specialists say so - he had to check blood sugars before he drove off each time), unfortunately, the change of insulin also had the impact of changing his personality.

For us as a family, the constant hypos was easier to deal with rather than the threat of violence every day.

LydiaJ

Sue,

I just want to say I find your story achingly tragic. I've always admired you for the valiant way in which you cope with what life has thrown at you, but it somehow makes it worse to think that you lost your marriage not because your ex was an inherently bad husband and father, but because of the mood altering effects of a change of insulin.

I wish I could make your life easier for you.

Lydia

SingleSue

Aww thanks Lydia.

I think that is one of the reasons why I still love him and can't move on and have another partner, he was not a bad person and he gave me a lot of happiness and love from when I was 16 nearly 17, you can't just stop loving a person when out of nearly 20 years, the last 18 months to 2 years was bad.

But I just couldn't put the boys (or myself) through it anymore, he was so unreasonable by that stage that he wouldn't change his insulin back and he was enjoying the greater freedom of not so many hypos too much to even contemplate it anyway. We had already been referred by social services to the domestic violence people and as his level of aggression was getting more by the day probably in part due to the stresses of the children and their problems, it was a risk I just couldn't take.

His sleeping with my best friend was not the straw that broke the camels back (although it didn't help), to be honest, it didn't really worry me as much as I thought it would...it was his actions afterwards that made the marriage untenable, his aggression towards me for finding out, his nastiness to me and finally, grabbing middle son by the throat and throwing him across the room, did.

I had to protect my young.

He is much more reasonable and like my old husband now, so not sure if he has had another change of insulin (I know his new wife, my ex best friend had major problems initially too with his mood changes). We still talk via phone just as we used to when we were married but he still doesn't really want much to do with his children which is a real shame but he at least does now listen and implement my behaviour controls for them on the rare occasions he does see them....so progress!

Me and youngest had one of our rare candid talks late last night (youngest is still struggling to sleep after the lost of our elder cat) and we were talking about their father and how our lives would be now if we had not split. Aside from the money side (which youngest did have a note of regret about - he rather enjoyed the better presents at birthday and Christmas and the holidays to Disneyland), he said I would be happier as I would be able to work like I used to, I would have someone to cuddle me but our holidays wouldn't be as good as they are now - as in, they are more relaxed now than they were then, not that we are going to better places.

He also said that eldest wouldn't have to work part time now as me and his father would get him him things, to which I told him that eldest would still be going to work as we were never like that anyway! We had always been a working family and it was something we both wanted and still want for the children - for them to be able to stand on their own two feet in adulthood.

Blimey I am in a wittering mood this morning...I blame the new medication!

Ellie2758

It does make you wonder what came first, the chicken or the egg. This is exactly my friend's experience, inability to control blood sugar level since her heart attack. BUT was the heart attack caused by her diabetes? Or are her probs and your dad's probs with controlling their levels all down to the heart attack?

lemonjelly wrote: »

Interestingly Sue, on reading your posts, there is a lot of "we" and "I" in them.

Which makes me wonder how he'd have coped/developed strategies and the like without your support? Not saying he wouldn't have, but there is a clear implication of teamwork & shared responsibilities in your posting.

My dad has been diabetic for 30 years. It was all fine until he had what we believe (though has never been confirmed) was a heart attack. Evere since then, managing his blood sugar levels has been a major problem. He went from injecting twice a day, to 4 times a day, constant blood monitoring etc. No success. He now has a pump fitted, which does appear to be working well.

Kinda feels wierd though, knowing he's fitted up with a machine keeping him alive.

(That is a teensy weensy bit overdramatic, but I take poetic licence in trying to highlight a point.)