Nice people thread 2 - now even nicer

carolt

vivatifosi wrote: »

I think if the other place had the virtual footfall and more dynamic nature that here has I'd probably want to go there instead as it is less argumentative. I have to admit also, that while I find the economy fascinating, I can't be bothered to argue about house prices any more. If something else happens and they rocket skywards or fall through the floor then maybe. Maybe its those lurches back and forth that make reading about Liz Jones so appealing.

I agree in some senses, as I find the arguments here irritating (basically I'm right and they're wrong - how can they be so stupid as not to realise??? ); in another way, as long as Hamish, chucky et al are still posting factually incorrect stuff, I see it as my moral duty to counteract that - it's a large part of why I post on here; a little step in the battle for truth in our biased media.

So in that sense, while it would be lovely to hang out only with nice, rational, unbiased people, I feel that someone needs to go into the jungle occasionally to bull-fight (excuse mixed metaphors), and if no-one else is going to do it, then, sigh, I will.

Until I've bought a place of my own, I will continue to find house prices fascinating, insofar as it makes a difference of potentially years of my working life. Once I've bought, I can't imagine I will wish to know - maybe I'll stick to economy threads then, though I feel that on the economy as a whole, rather than just the narrow issue of house prices, discussion here is more evenly split, and the media leaves less gaping holes unprobed, generally.

I suppose, re the argumentative thing, lir, I come from a big family where strong, reasoned argument is something both expected and respected - arguing your case strongly and cogently is not seen as negative but as an interesting way of exploring all areas of discussion. I've come to realise on here that there are lots of people who appear to find that aggressive or threatening; I just find that view odd - if it's worth discussing, just politely agreeing without really covering all the ground seems a bit pointless to me; a bit of a cop-out.

sss555s

carolt wrote: »

I feel that someone needs to go into the jungle occasionally to bull-fight (excuse mixed metaphors), and if no-one else is going to do it, then, sigh, I will.

Carol, we all know you love it

lostinrates

carolt wrote: »

Until I've bought a place of my own, I will continue to find house prices fascinating, insofar as it makes a difference of potentially years of my working life. Once I've bought, I can't imagine I will wish to know - maybe I'll stick to economy threads then, though I feel that on the economy as a whole, rather than just the narrow issue of house prices, discussion here is more evenly split, and the media leaves less gaping holes unprobed, generally.
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I think I find HPs interesting as a social issue as much as a personal one. Our social landscape is changing, again, and I find this interesting.

Fwiw what has really made me giggle is the people telling me that ''we are buying a bargain''. well, possibly. I think we're also buying a money pit. I could spend a couple of hundred grand there sure - if we had it!-, and it might sell for twice, or even the optimistic four times much one agent I know suggested, but until the bank's surveyor gives me the go ehead I'm not even sure its what we are mortaging for worth. With significant issues I have to admit, I am getting very twitchy about the bank's valuation today or tomorrow.

lemonjelly

On a bit of a tangent, I'm now starting to ponder putting my crops outside. Many have come along quite well. Cucumbers are a bit slow, & I'm concerned 1 or 2 won't make it. All the courgette plants are healthy. The runner beans have suprised me with the speed of their growth. I have staged my tomato crop. Chives are coming along, as are sprouts & brocolli.

I need to prepare for the devils which are slugs!

I came across this book which I thought may well interest a few on here (I'm thinking of viva for a start;)) especially given the review of "Whoops". Here it is: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fools-Gold-Unrestrained-Corrupted-Catastrophe/dp/1408701642/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274087576&sr=1-2

In addition, if anyone enjoys a giggle, I've just finished reading this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Playing-Moldovans-Tennis-Tony-Hawks/dp/0091867908/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274087851&sr=1-3 which is in many ways absurd, enlightening, endearing, and so funny that you really shouldn't read it in public...:D

chucky

carolt wrote: »

I agree in some senses, as I find the arguments here irritating (basically I'm right and they're wrong - how can they be so stupid as not to realise??? ); in another way, as long as Hamish, chucky et al are still posting factually incorrect stuff, I see it as my moral duty to counteract that - it's a large part of why I post on here; a little step in the battle for truth in our biased media.

total rubbish - all you post is dubious anecdotal information that gets found out each and every time.

you then come on this thread to slag people off.

carolt wrote: »

I suppose, re the argumentative thing, lir, I come from a big family where strong, reasoned argument is something both expected and respected

what happened to you then - how come you don't have this trait?

tomterm8

lemonjelly wrote: »

On a bit of a tangent, I'm now starting to ponder putting my crops outside.

We have done that with broad beans, and runner beans, but not Cucumbers or courgettes.

lemonjelly

Cucumbers/courgettes & tomatoes won't go outside til june. I meant putting my brocolli, sprouts & beans into the proper ground, as they're still in pots.

vivatifosi

lemonjelly wrote: »

I came across this book which I thought may well interest a few on here (I'm thinking of viva for a start;)) especially given the review of "Whoops". Here it is: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fools-Gold-Unrestrained-Corrupted-Catastrophe/dp/1408701642/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274087576&sr=1-2

In addition, if anyone enjoys a giggle, I've just finished reading this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Playing-Moldovans-Tennis-Tony-Hawks/dp/0091867908/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274087851&sr=1-3 which is in many ways absurd, enlightening, endearing, and so funny that you really shouldn't read it in public...:D

Oooh, thanks lj. I haven't heard of Fools Gold before. The next economics book Iwant to read is this one, by Niall Ferguson:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ascent-Money-Financial-History-World/dp/014103548X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274100259&sr=1-1
Niall Ferguson wrote a great article in last week's Economist about the threat to the end of the Euro and this looks really good too.

However its the Tony Hawks book I'm most excited about. I've wanted to read one of his for some time and that looks more fun than round Ireland with a Fridge. I'll get that on my to read list this afternoon.

lemonjelly

vivatifosi wrote: »

Oooh, thanks lj. I haven't heard of Fools Gold before. The next economics book Iwant to read is this one, by Niall Ferguson:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ascent-Money-Financial-History-World/dp/014103548X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274100259&sr=1-1
Niall Ferguson wrote a great article in last week's Economist about the threat to the end of the Euro and this looks really good too.

However its the Tony Hawks book I'm most excited about. I've wanted to read one of his for some time and that looks more fun than round Ireland with a Fridge. I'll get that on my to read list this afternoon.

Viva the Tony Hawks book is genuinely laugh out loud funny. At other times, it is also a very human & enlightening book. Highly recommended.

I've added Fools Gold & Whoops onto my reading list. I'm now debating what to read next, options being:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mr-Blue-Renegade-Edward-Bunker/dp/1901982793/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274110087&sr=1-1 or
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jack-Ripper-Stewart-P-Evans/dp/075093770X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274110122&sr=1-1
or something else...

(I'll probably have changed my mind again by the time I get home...;))

vivatifosi

I wonder if Sue knows those ones lj, I know she likes crime writing, I'm just not sure about true crime. I got the Niall Ferguson book today, it was in stock, but I wasn't quite ready for the size of it - gulp. Meanwhile this is what I'm reading at the moment - funny, scary and interesting all at the same time:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Trust-Me-Im-Junior-Doctor/dp/0340962054/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1274110967&sr=1-2-spell