Park Direct Ltd -

esmerobbo

chrisspectre wrote: »

Ok, i accept your wager but instead of posting links, i'll point you to a parking company who has already published their wins. You'll find links, newspaper reports and court summaries here: combinedparkingsolutions.com/legal.html (as a new user i am not allowed to publish links)

Lets make it easy! say the last three years we have had 10 posters a day being advised to ignore! [usually many more but for the sake of the bet] between here CAG and Pepipoo just to name 3!

3 X 365 X 10 = 10,950 you need to come up with at least 109.5 defended wins!! remember undefended dont count!:D Oh and to be fair they have to be satisfied as well, seeing you thought your friends didn't need to satisfy theirs!

chrisspectre

pogofish wrote: »

Actually, Scottish councils have always had this option but it has only recently been picked-up in relation to legit enforcement and as a last resort after all other legal means have failed. The ban remains completely unchanged for private contrators.

Indeed, at least two of the councils taking this option have yet to use it, other than as a threat.

So what relavance this has to the rest of your ignorant, scamming, horsesh!t, I do not know?

A private parking company is contracted to private land. That company has an awful lot of legal work to sort out before operating, including scrutiny from councils, health and safety, fair trading, BPA, SIA, bye-laws, laws etc etc. They then act within those guidelines to control parking. They act within the law.
Now perhaps you can tell me by what laws you act in encouraging trespass?

chrisspectre

esmerobbo wrote: »

How did I know you were going to come up with greasy spoon Perky's wins. If that's the best you can do I is on easy money!!

I will give you a clue go to UKCPS website you will find some there too!

I didn't say that was the best i could do, but i did indicate that was all i was prepared to do at the moment. At the moment i would much rather publish that which has already been published than publish things i am not entirely sure can be published. But....the moment i have clarification believe me i will!

cajef

chrisspectre wrote: »

Now perhaps you can tell me by what laws you act in encouraging trespass?

Still have not answered my question I will ask it again:-

Just like this person has trespassed?

ttp://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=3424177

chrisspectre

By the way...who is perky?

Sirdan

chrisspectre wrote: »

I didn't say that was the best i could do, but i did indicate that was all i was prepared to do at the moment. At the moment i would much rather publish that which has already been published than publish things i am not entirely sure can be published. But....the moment i have clarification believe me i will!

Judgements handed down by courts are public documents (including CCJ's) , as such there is no reason to not publish them.

esmerobbo

chrisspectre wrote: »

By the way...who is perky?

Perky AKA Michael Perkins was the owner of Combined Parking. His was the much quoted Stephen Thomas case.

Seeing you quoted his website and his [STRIKE]set ups[/STRIKE] wins I thought you would have known!

esmerobbo

chrisspectre wrote: »

A private parking company is contracted to private land. That company has an awful lot of legal work to sort out before operating, including scrutiny from councils, health and safety, fair trading, BPA, SIA, bye-laws, laws etc etc. They then act within those guidelines to control parking. They act within the law.
Now perhaps you can tell me by what laws you act in encouraging trespass?

You may find this interesting reading! http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=63597&pid=612708&st=0&#entry612708

Also this! http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2011/03/31/26000-fine-for-parking-firm/

Seems some are not acting within the law or may not be!

Sir_Roger_deLodger

How interesting - "Ppchometruths" has all his posts deleted then "Chrisspectre" reappears.

Hi Perky!

Sirdan

Now perhaps you can tell me by what laws you act in encouraging trespass?

There are no regulars here who advocate or encourage trespass.

An individuals conduct is a matter for them , it is the wholly disproportionate response of the PPC industry that we object to.

Looking at the few cases that PPCs do pursue into court the vast majority are for "breach of contract" not trespass.

The LAW provides that the legal remedy for trespass or breach of contract is reasonable losses and/or damages.

This is why PPCs lose in court because the amounts they claim in no way reflect losses or damages.

Trepass is a civil tort so it is not "against the law" i.e. a criminal offence.
To this end it may be morally wrong but it is not a crime.

It's a bit like PPCs and debt collectors sending letters to registered keepers implying that all manner of dire consequences will result from non-payment when they know that the keeper is not liable !

Or maybe like one of the larger DCAs used by several PPCs quoting civil procedures rule 31 even though they must know it is not applicable.

Hmm on second thoughts actually what the industry does probably is criminal ..i.e. attempting to gain pecuniary advantage by deception.

And on a final note how would you justify APCOA trying to charge anyone £80 for their passenger alighting whilst the vehicle is stopped at a red light ??
(One would think APCOA as one of the largest parking companies would be setting the standard for others )

I would love to hear your legal and moral points on that one !!!