Money Moral Dilemma: Should Ashley get more £££?

The_Rock-man

MSE_Penelope wrote: »

Here's this week's hypothetical situation for you to cogitate on:

Should Ashley get more £££?

Jessica is a bit broke so her sister Ashley lends her £30 shopping money. They both go the newsagent's, and Jessica decides to get a scratch card on the off chance she might win. Low and behold, she gets £1,000. She tells her sis she'll give her £100 as a thank you. Ashley thinks it's unfair to only get £100 as it was her money to start with. Surely she should get half at least?

Well theres nothing saying why Jessica is "a bit broke" or what "a bit broke" is, also why Ashley is lending the cash, making it hard to see what really happening in Jessica life (to me bit broke means a small cash flow problem IE low on/out of cash just before a pay day etc).
As for is the £100 fair well yes as it more than she lent, in the normal situation it would of been £30-£35 back I would expect (most likely closer to £30 given that its in family).

PoorPennilessMe

ifan.goch wrote: »

Those people who say that people who are broke shouldn't gamble have obviously not been in that position themselves. I have, and I bought the occasional lottery ticket as I was desperate to improve my family's situation. Sure its a gamble, but at least you have some hope.

I have been in that position, and I must have not been playing the system properly or something because I couldn't afford to gamble! Like I said in a previous post, if there is enough left over to gamble with, benefits should be reduced.

PoorPennilessMe

jamespir wrote: »

dont be a clot buying a £ scratchcard doesent make you a gambler

Denifinition of gambling - Betting or staking of something of value on the outcome of a game or event

Paying a pound in the hopes os winning more is the very foundation of gambline.

Why do you think a person of to be over 16 to buy scratch cards? Because of the GAMBLING Act 2005.

Sorry, but who is the clot?

jamespir

PoorPennilessMe wrote: »

I think the point here is that benefits are effectively taxpayer's money. If the people recieving them have enough excess to gamble, then they are surely getting too much and should be decreased leaving more in the pockets of those who earn it.

There is a world of difference between wages and benefits. Benefits are to ensure people don't starve, have a roof, etc. Wages are earned proportionally to improve lifestyle.

come on its a pound and by the looks of thing a ONE OFF she could have found the pound on the floor for all we know what you spend your money on whatever which way you get it is your buisnesss no one elses

jamespir

PoorPennilessMe wrote: »

Denifinition of gambling - Betting or staking of something of value on the outcome of a game or event

Paying a pound in the hopes os winning more is the very foundation of gambline.

Why do you think a person of to be over 16 to buy scratch cards? Because of the GAMBLING Act 2005.

Sorry, but who is the clot?

a gambler is somone who bets on a regular occasion yes it is a form of gambling
its the same as drinking having one drink doesent make you an alcoholic

PoorPennilessMe

jamespir wrote: »

im not on benefits so you presumed wrong

and as i see it even though its taxes its not our money so we have no control over it as we have no control over the banks who use tax payers money

if they wanted to spend it on fags and booze its up to them at the end of the day the only reason people ahve thrown in the well its our taxpayers money argument in is becasue t here jealous

Jealous of what exactly? Whilst I won't speak for others, I would rather be financially worse off by working and have my dignity, than be reliant on benefits. They were useful when I had no other choice (other than not eat, lose my home, etc), but I wouldn't want to live there!

Taffybiker

I don't think Ashley is entitled to anything really. If I lend someone money then for a time it is theirs to do with as they wish, providing I receive it back again at the agreed time there is no problem. The offer of £100 is a bonus.
Imagine if Ashley had won a £million. How much would she have to offer to satisfy her sister? By percentages the figure would be £100,000. To expect half would be sheer greed.

PoorPennilessMe

jamespir wrote: »

a gambler is somone who bets on a regular occasion yes it is a form of gambling
its the same as drinking having one drink doesent make you an alcoholic

I never described anyone as having a gambling addiction. That said you don't have to gamble on a regular basis to be a gambler. I gamble infrequently, but never say I don't gamble!

Just like because I only drink once a week I don't call myself a teetotaller!

There is an old saying that I think is pertinent to this entire thread...

'Never gamble what you are not willing to lose'

If Ashley had seen her sister dropping pound coins down the drain after lending her money, how would she have felt? Do we think she would have loaned her money again? Just because it paid off this once doesn't make it right...

(Good debate going on this one eh?)

AliSingle

If it were my sister and me/ I (whatever the correct English should be) then I'd be lucky to get more than my £30 back! I'd be grateful for the £100 and be done with it.

Steveatlimarc

It does not matter really because Jessica must be a waster if she needs to borrow money and then spends it in Gambling. She will be back for more and Ashley can correctly point out her actions this time