Co-OP and the tale of age verification

peachyprice

sammy_kaye18 wrote: »

The rule in the coop is if they look under 25 then we have to legally ask for ID or we get an £80 on the spot fine

Sorry, no, that is not at all correct. Think 25 is not a legal requirement at all, it's a voluntary policy supermarkets have taken upon themselves to adopt, it has absolutley no standing in law and whoever told you that is incorrect.

It may well be your store's policy to 'fine' you for not ID'ing under 25's but it's not the law. Anyone over the age of 18 can buy alcohol in the UK. once a person is over 18 you cannot get fined for selling them alcohol,even if you haven't ID'd them.

sarahg1969

puppet1984 wrote: »

the street comment doesn't make sense it depends who asked.

pasta sauce or no pasta sauce, power trip or stupidity just carry a form of id that is generally accepted!

What about asking for ID for a child in her school uniform?

sarahg1969

sammy_kaye18 wrote: »

I am an employee of the coop and if we scan a prohibited item on the till it asks us to put in the age of the person buying the item. The rule in the coop is if they look under 25 then we have to legally ask for ID or we get an £80 on the spot fine (if its obviously a secret shopper/trial shopper etc), we face court action and the prospect of losing our job so personally I know the risk to my job is not worth it so I do ask.

Some shops if they know the shopper (ie they are a regular) and have been ID'd before then there is no need to ask again.

Also some shops do accept military ID as a form of identification but this is dependent on the store and the form of ID has to have a photograph, name and DOB of the person on it. We are not allowed to accept college cards in our store though.

We do get the command prompts for things like nail varnish, party poppers, certain magazines (this includes an XBOX magazine as well as top shelf and even the SPORT newspaper) and obviously cigarettes and alcohol but I have never had a command prompt come up for pasta sauces, sauces or chocolates containing alcohol.

Can you tell the difference between a young-looking 40 year-old and a mature-looking 17 year-old?

peachyprice

sarahg1969 wrote: »

What about asking for ID for a child in her school uniform?

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Third time lucky sarah?

sarahg1969

peachyprice wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Third time lucky sarah?

I think I'm being ignored! :rotfl:

Zazen999

sarahg1969 wrote: »

I think I'm being ignored! :rotfl:

I don't think they understand the question.

:eek:

WhiteHorse

puppet1984 wrote:

If you are asked for id then you should be able to provide it.

Says who, exactly?

I was asked for id in tesco's for buying a paint scraper had look over 25 as it's classed as a knife. I didn't feel the need to get upset about it.

Then you need to ask .. who classified it ... what is their authority ... is it proportionate or appropriate ... ?

People seem to forget that the person asking you for id is only doing a job.

'I vas only obeyink orders' went out of fashion in 1945.

WhiteHorse

sammy_kaye18 wrote:

The rule in the coop is if they look under 25 then we have to legally ask for ID or we get an £80 on the spot fine (if its obviously a secret shopper/trial shopper etc) ...

A fine? From whom?

CWCDiver

puppet1984 wrote: »

Doesn't matter whether it's ok or not to be id for the item. If you are asked for id then you should be able to provide it. I was asked for id in tesco's for buying a paint scraper had look over 25 as it's classed as a knife.
I didn't feel the need to get upset about it.

"Doesn't matter"? It doesn't matter if something is OK, or sensible? So it is OK to require people to provide ID to purchase a tomato based cooking sauce.

The law is not 25 to purchase a knife either, there is no law relating to paint scrapers.

puppet1984 wrote: »

People seem to forget that the person asking you for id is only doing a job. A job they could lose if caught selling a prohibited item to a person under the age at which the item requires them to be.

Tomato based cooking sauce is not a "prohibited item", there is no age restriction on the purchase, consumption or ownership of tomato based cooking sauce.

puppet1984 wrote: »

in response to army id cards you will find alot of places that will only accept driver's license, passport (in date) and to a lesser extent the portman proof of age card.

As I have commented in this thread, an Army ID card is a lot more secure, and difficult to obtain than a Portman proof of age card.

puppet1984 wrote: »

pasta sauce or no pasta sauce, power trip or stupidity just carry a form of id that is generally accepted!

People, and by people I mean idiots, like you are one of the main problems with this country. There is no legal requirement to to carry ID, and aside from the fact I was carrying at least 4 forms of ID that the shop deemed not acceptable. If you wish to blindly wander into a police state where you are required to present ID for everything then that is your problem, but it's probably best you don't encourage others to.

sarahg1969 wrote: »

What about asking for ID for a child in her school uniform?

I have never attempted to buy a child in school uniform but I guess I wouldn't have the correct ID on me

Zazen999

sammy_kaye18 wrote: »

I am an employee of the coop and if we scan a prohibited item on the till it asks us to put in the age of the person buying the item. The rule in the coop is if they look under 25 then we have to legally ask for ID or we get an £80 on the spot fine (if its obviously a secret shopper/trial shopper etc), we face court action and the prospect of losing our job so personally I know the risk to my job is not worth it so I do ask.

Do any of you employees ever ask the question 'which law exactly'?