Bonus from work, should this be counted for child maintenance?

jetta_wales

Why does she need a bonus? You get a bonus for working extra hard and doing above and beyond your normal duties, if my ex got a bonus then it'd be because he deserved it what buisness of mine is it to take that any of that off him?

The kids aren't going to cost 25% of your bonus more that month because you got a bonus so she won't need any extra money.

I don't think Child Support should be based on a percentage of wage, your children don't cost you more to care for when your ex gets a payrise do they?

Myex earns £1k a year and has the girls on the weekend, I'm a full time Mum as we agree'd I would be before we split and I only ask for £100 a month and half of extra's like school uniforms and such. If he gets a pay rise this amount won't change, not untill I find I need extra for them because money's tight.

i think it's terrible that people are actualy actualy attacking the guy when he's just asked a simple and logical question about the CSA system. Get a grip you've no right to do that at all.

AnxiousMum

His EX doesn't get the share of the bonus - his kids do via CSA. If the two parents were still together and he got a bonus, his kids would benefit from it in one way or another. It's not the kids fault that parents broke up.

Let's put it this way - if his pay went down by £5K per year, does that mean his kids should still get the same via CSA as they were getting before? Or, would they have to cut back on a few things just as if they were still living with both parents and payroll went down?

As a PWC, if I get a bonus from work - it generally ALL goes on my kids.....not just 25% of it and there's no court or CSA ordering that.

Vader123

AnxiousMum wrote: »

His EX doesn't get the share of the bonus - his kids do via CSA. If the two parents were still together and he got a bonus, his kids would benefit from it in one way or another. It's not the kids fault that parents broke up.

Let's put it this way - if his pay went down by £5K per year, does that mean his kids should still get the same via CSA as they were getting before? Or, would they have to cut back on a few things just as if they were still living with both parents and payroll went down?

As a PWC, if I get a bonus from work - it generally ALL goes on my kids.....not just 25% of it and there's no court or CSA ordering that.

Excellent post Amum, sums it up better than I can.

Vader

jetta_wales

Not every father has to have money taken from him and given to the trust of the mother to ensure it s spent on the cildren, why is ok to assume that only the csa money is spent on the kids, nobody regulates how much of the mothers benefits or earnings or even the money she gets from the father is actualy spent on the children do they?

sarflee

AnxiousMum wrote: »

If the two parents were still together and he got a bonus, his kids would benefit from it in one way or another. QUOTE]

Only in a material way!! Gosh I'm so glad that I don't rate my parents on what they give me in the material sense!! I'd also be mortified if I thought my children would think more or less of me If I was/wasn't able to buy them more.

whacks

interesting according to this thread

Good parenting = amount of money spent on kids

AnxiousMum

whacks wrote: »

interesting according to this thread

Good parenting = amount of money spent on kids

Wow has my post ever been taken in the wrong context! I don't ever recall equating good parenting to how much money is spent on kids.

However, should a parent treat kids from a second relationship any different to those from the first?

My kids think very little of their father at the moment due to the very fact that ever since he has had another child with his new partner, contact with them has decreased, he hasn't provided child support for them, and they have become 'second rate' kids to their father in their eyes. NOT related to money per se, but in relation to how they are now treated oh so differently to his new child.

I'm sure there are PWC's out there who look at child support as being theirs. There are also NCP's out there who will shirk away from whatever reasponsibility they don't want to have in regards to their kids.

I think in the mainstream though - most parents want what is best for their kids. I get bonuses from work on a regular basis - and I do usually put those towards 'family' items, or things for the kids. Just as we as adults like to get a 'bonus', why wouldn't our kids? My kids get ready for school in the morning without hassle so that I can be on time for work, they are busy doing homework quietly when they come home so that I can finish any end of the day work calls - why shouldn't I reward them with my bonus? It's not 'being a better parent 'cos I'm spending money on them', it's rewarding them in the very same way that I have been awarded with a bonus. Simple.....

But I gess the OP's agreement is qutie straight forward - 25% of his income.......that includes bonuses, or wage decreases - but guess going by this thread, most people would only go for a change if it was a decrease.

And yes, when I get the year's arrears of child support - I will be big time treating my kids for a thank you in not complaining about the things they havent' been able to have over the past year.

kelloggs36

newbie1980 wrote: »

i agree with the op
this is a 25% bonus why should his exget this when it prob does not go on the kids???prob a night out with a new fella???
the csa goes after the wrong people rather than go for the ones who pay they need to get the ones that dont pay a dime.
im surethe op gives morethan enough to his kids in way of presents ect and the 1 with the vouchers i bet they br the kids something nice for xmass ratherthan the money go again tothe ex

If it is via the CSA then it does count as income and should be pro-ratad in to make new weekly figures to pay.

jen_br

Um... Firstly who said that the money didn't go to the kids.. But honestly thanks for being judgemental people.. however if we had CASH it WOULDN"T GO TO THE KID but to the parent with care!! So if you knew my situation where the PWC is a total B**** and throws my step son out every other week so he has to come here.. because hes 17 and shes stopped getting benefits for him.

Or the fact that out of the 500.00 my husband spent the money on our NEW baby and xmas gifts for the child rather then not being able to afford such things.

So think about that before you ofer your 2p

AnxiousMum

Or, before you get into discussion with people, be prepared for comments that you don't necessarily agree with!

If your partners son is in such a bad situation, has your partner thought about having him come live with you where he would be treated better and have a home he could call home?