Beware of new Windows 7 update

Aiadi

RobertoMoir wrote: »

You want work to progress on these. You want things to improve, presumably? You want new capabilities to be added to them, right?

No WRONG. you wouldn't want to pay hundred of pounds for Vista and the fork out again in Windows 7 to fix the problems with Vista. Your argument will only stand if windows 7 was offered as a free update to the crap that was Vista. When one pays money they expect at least something fit for purpose. Paying to go from XP to 7 is acceptable but needing to pay to fix the errors of Vista is unjustifiable.

jmc160

Aiadi wrote: »

No WRONG. you wouldn't want to pay hundred of pounds for Vista and the fork out again in Windows 7 to fix the problems with Vista. Your argument will only stand if windows 7 was offered as a free update to the crap that was Vista. When one pays money they expect at least something fit for purpose. Paying to go from XP to 7 is acceptable but needing to pay to fix the errors of Vista is unjustifiable.

What errors in Vista? I ran it from release date until Windows 7 release date and have never had any issues, apart from those created by 3rd party co's poor driver support (namely ATI). But then, I took note of Vista's requirements and built a system specifically capable of running Vista. I still have it working. It's now acting as a media centre in my bedroom.

The reason Windows is updated in the way it is is because there's so many attempted exploits turning up all the time. People keep coming up with ways to break it or use it for ill-gotten gains, and so Microsoft keep updating it to fight against this. Why is that a problem?

zartub

Beast wrote: »

Fantastic news, hopefully this will reduce the number of !!!!!! not paying for software

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

patman99

You can use Vista keys to activate Windows 7 installs. My friend wipped-clean his laptop hdd and installed 7 in place of Vista. As it was a 'like-for-like' he tried the Vista key and hey presto!! one activated and working Win 7 system, and one win 7 key spare for use on another PC.

bugeyed

amarg wrote: »

There are easy ways to stop a program or operating system from connecting to their server.

Every time a company creates a new way to stop the illegal copies from working some clever cracker will find a solution.

I just bought windows 7 and it is very good.

I don't mind shelling out for the operating system as it is normally affordable, but when you look at other programs like Adobe CS4 master collection or autocad they are thousands of pounds and so this just encourages people to crack them.

Check out http://www.software4students.co.uk/Adobe_CS4_Student-software.aspx
example Adobe CS4 Master Collection normally £2264.35
on this website £434.99
Dreamweaver can be picked up for less than £90


As for windows 7 and the activation patch, zdnet has a VERY interesting article here http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1817
Not wishing to endorse pirating software from the highly respected bill gates, this seems remarkably easy and from a quick google, the new activation patch is already bypassed through this method :eek:

spud17

Check out http://www.software4students.co.uk/A...-software.aspx
example Adobe CS4 Master Collection normally £2264.35
on this website £434.99
Dreamweaver can be picked up for less than £90

I brought this to the attention of someone who uses CS4 in his second job, and he pointed out that the Adobe CS4 is still the student version, despite what it may imply.

Aiadi

jmc160 wrote: »

What errors in Vista?

I apologise. Vista was actually great and I am the only one living in Cloud Cuckoo Land....

poppy10_2

I have a 'free' version of Windows 7:cool: and have installed this update without any issues. This seems to only affect you if you are using lame OEM preactivated versions from p2p rather than the clean retail ISO. In which case you are an idiot, and deserve to get pwned.

cooki2222 wrote: »

I've never once bought an OS they have already been installed on my laptops/pcs

In which case you have bought the OS, the cost of it has been bundles in to the price of the PC/laptop. My 'free' versions of Windows have always been to reinstall a clean version of Windows onto a legally bought computer that comes with a cruft-filled Windows with loads of crappy programs preinstalled by the manufacturer, slowing down the computer

cit_k

Also, reportedly if the 90-day interval WAT piracy checking system "calls" are unable to connect to the Microsoft servers (or even if they are manually blocked from connecting, e.g. by firewall policies) there will reportedly be no ill effects.

So all you have to do is ensure outgoing traffic to microsoft servers are banned.

Surely its going to be easy for the net to publish what ip's/addressess this update connects to, and then people can just block them.

RobertoMoir

Aiadi wrote: »

No WRONG. you wouldn't want to pay hundred of pounds for Vista and the fork out again in Windows 7 to fix the problems with Vista. Your argument will only stand if windows 7 was offered as a free update to the crap that was Vista. When one pays money they expect at least something fit for purpose. Paying to go from XP to 7 is acceptable but needing to pay to fix the errors of Vista is unjustifiable.

No *RIGHT*. Vista SP2 fixes the problems with Vista. Pretty much anyway... I still don't like Vista with all the patches but its not outright 'broken' at that point. It's basically 'fit for purpose' - it's capable of doing the things they claimed it would do at the time of purchase.

There also comes a point where we're talking about a new product rather than 'fixing' the old one and you might want to argue that Microsoft chose the wrong point on the scale between W7 & Vista but the principle is perfectly sound.

As we were throwing around car analogies earlier, my ford focus is a refinement of and replacement for the ford escort. According to you, Ford should have recalled all the Escorts in the world and replaced them with Focuses free of charge. Or is computer software somehow magically different?

If you do thing that computer software is magically different then what about Photoshop? How many versions have been released by now? You have to pay for the newer versions of that if you have an old version, too. Shouldn't they offer previous customers an upgrade for life for free? Or are operating systems somehow magically different from applications?

So that Apple eh? They made me actually *pay* to upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard. OK it was a reduced amount, but then so was the pricing for W7 at the time of release. How disgraceful of Apple though. Tch. Or are Apple somehow magically different from Microsoft?

Can we have an adult discussion about the matter now or shall I go on?