Toyota Recall

Viper_7

Anihilator wrote: »

Could anyone confirm the number of accidents or incidents related to these recalls in the UK - then express it as a percentage of sales.

There is nothing wrong with the cars at all and its a case of nanny state applies. Toyota are simply doing minor adjustments to cover there !!!!!! from the plentiful supply of bottom feeder lawyers who will get the local scum with a 10 year old Yaris to sue when they drunkenly crash it into a ditch and blame the recall issue.

The problem does not affect old cars.
There have been numerous crashes to the throttle issue, but I don't have the numbers, but for sure the number is very small.
Again numerous issues with braking, but these are not as serious, just the ABS being overly sensitive to uneven surfaces.

They are indeed covering their !!!!!!, and sure there are bottom feeder lawyers out there, are you saying that those who have had accidents to an identified fault or to those you potentially may crash in the future due to an identified fault should just laugh it off? The fault is not going to go away, and the number of crashes due to this fault is likely to continue growing.
If there wasn't a problem do you really think they would spend billions on the recall and cost themselves billions in future sales, or do you think they would be better off paying off the odd family who loses a loved one due to their design faults?

It's good to see them acknowlege and accept the fault and to look at putting it right, hopefully this will see them in good stead going forward rather than burying their heads in the sand.

Lemonade_Pockets

Could anyone confirm the number of accidents or incidents related to these recalls in the UK - then express it as a percentage of sales.

Pretty difficult given timescales. If you really want to then find out the precise model years afflicted and look up the corresponding sales data for that model from SMMT.
I get auto news streams every day so if i come across it i'll post it up.

American politics, strange that Ford / GM hardly get a mention about their recalls.

Not exactly for example Ford had a big one regarding cruise control in the states last year, however it only got coverage in the states because it didn't affect cars anywhere else. Toyota are the pioneers of the world car which has bought great cost savings etc etc, which is why they have risen from obscurity to being the no1 car maker. However the problem with a world car or cars is if one goes they all go.

Or is this just xenophbia and protectionism?

However it would be naive to suggest there isn't a bit of this going on. But its probably not the route cause.


I think they will recover, their shares saw a small rebound yesterday (haven't seen todays stats).

Judging by the responses on here their PR already seems to be working. I could tell you till i'm blue in the face that this issue has been rumbling on for ages and they've only gone to full recall's because (as ever) it was their only route out but i don't suppose it'd make a jot of difference.

Kurtis_Blue

d77 wrote: »

A Prius driver using the Heel 'n' Toe technique. :rotfl:

I know Toyota may be going back into rally, but I can't quite see it in that piece of s***

Hmmm maybe I didn't think that through.
:rotfl:

PandorasJar

Eric_Pisch wrote: »

The acelerator problem only happens if corrosion over years occurs and affects a tiny tiny tiny amount of cars, and there's a free fix.

Toyota should also be comended for there fast and very public response to this issue, unlike some other manufacturers like renault who do everything they can to avoid recalls (Clio faulty bonet catches).

Not necessarily true, my mums accelerator pedal defaulted within the first couple of months of purchase. And this was before the hype, so non-related.
You have to wait until you receive the recall letter, mum's won't be looked at again 'til then.

However I agree with you totally on how they've handled it.
In spite of this latest 'problem', I have to say that Toyota will be my first choice once my current one bites the dust and my mum can't recommend any other make more highly. They are much more reliable in general than other cars (yes lots of them have problems too, just haven't been publicised), they last forever and the models brought out are consistently good

Also the number of accidents caused as a direct result of this have probably been grossly over-estimated... after all how many people in a Toyota accident will now say it was their fault rather than the car?!

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rambo89

is this the car mats problem ive heard about? Am I right in thinking the pedal is sticking to the mats?

Sorry but that is just sloppy design, and reckless disregard for peoples safety.

goldspanners

rambo89 wrote: »

is this the car mats problem ive heard about? Am I right in thinking the pedal is sticking to the mats?

Sorry but that is just sloppy design, and reckless disregard for peoples safety.

no its not about the mats. its a problem with the pedal.

where have you been for the past week? its all thats been on the news.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Lemonade_Pockets wrote: »

Recalls cost money, MFR's don't do them unless they have to.

The US is historically the biggest market (china has now come wading in though), if the US government start making a hulabaloo then thats the when MFR's start listening. Lets face it they are more than ever going to do that now they own a large stake in a US MFR.

ManuFactureR.

and not my tag MFR that stands for something entirely different. :rotfl:.

I play an online games called JOINT OPERATIONS TYPHOON RISING/CALL OF DUTY MODERN WARFARE 2.
and i'm in a clan called Marine Force Recon.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

ginvzt

I can't see OP saying which model they bought? Not all models are effected!

I have Yaris (53) and I am not worried the slightest. I had a colleague asking me if I am worried about the safety of my car, and you should have seen his face when I said no. If to take all this problem very seriously, all toyotas should be off the roads now the roads would be much easier to use. Oh, and when I am replacing my car, I would be happy with another Toyota (if my finances allow that).

sauvignon

Thanks Lemonade Pockets and others who put all of this into perspective. The way this thread started it looked like everyone was on Toyota staff getting bonuses for bashing any critics. I am one of those affected by this recall and it's just the last straw. I have had my Yaris for just over three years and it broke down twice during the warranty period with faults potentially very dangerous if they occured on a motorway, has had other issues, some still unresolved, including the pedal or sticking mat problem, AND three recalls including the latest one for which I've already been contacted.
Is this a safe car? Not to my mind. I'd have sold it immediately when the warranty expired if I didn't need it for Christmas as weeks after it had been serviced there was a new issue, possibly with electrics or software - I don't want to know anymore. I never felt safe in the car. This must affect people's driving so potentially their safety. Toyota wouldn't have first hushed the issue and then recall millions of vehicles if it wasn't necessary. There may be other problems they - but not us - are aware of.

jack_spratt_2

No car manufacturer are perfect you will get good Toyota's and bad Toyota's just as you will get good Ford`s and Vauxhall`s and bad Ford`s and Vauxhall`s...
We all pay our money and decide which car to buy and to be honest most modern cars are very reliable these days and all come with a very good warranty .

I think the time to complain is when a manufacturer refuses to do a repair !! I am sure we have all heard the phrase " it is a characteristic of the car "
I have bought Toyota for many years not because the car is manufactured to a higher standard than others it is because the service received from the dealership is miles better than anywhere else !! the worst service has been from Audi and Mercedes dealerships
I know some people will say there Toyota dealership is poor to them I say complain to Toyota GB