Toyota Recall

Lemonade_Pockets

Eric_Pisch wrote: »

Wow the press really are trying to make something out of this none story....

The acelerator problem only happens if corrosion over years occurs and affects a tiny tiny tiny amount of cars, and there's a free fix.

The PIOUS braking issue is software based and only happens in a freak set of circumstances, there's a free software update to fix this.

So neither issue makes a new car unsafe, there's a free fix, so there's no grounds to reject it.

Toyota should also be comended for there fast and very public response to this issue, unlike some other manufacturers like renault who do everything they can to avoid recalls (Clio faulty bonet catches).

Thats a lot of knowledge but sadly most of it incorrect, the figures are changing daily but:

As a non issue i'm not sure i agree without looking it up i think toyota are about to embark on one of the biggest worldwide recalls ever. There has been similar fuss for every other MFR why not Toyota?

In the US The earliest reports of sticky accelerators date back to to 2003. Toyota issued a fix in 2007 and late 2009 by way of altering the floor mat which was believed to be the issue.

In 2010 this hit the big time. I think the figure is nearing 10 million recalls issued world wide for numerous accelerator problems everything from floor mats, excess wear and moisture, holes in brake lines is cited as the cause. Basically its gone tits up.

The prius issue to date affect 430,000 cars and its dubious whether toyota have actually fixed the problem.

Fast and public response my !!!! it wouldn't be if they didn't have half America's US administration jumping up and down making very loud we are going ruin you over this noises.

The Clio issue doesn't even scratch the surface, BTW there was a free fix offered at service intervals for that, and every owner believed to be affected to was written too so that they could have it done immediately if they wished.

Come out from under your rock. Toyota have messed up on a Epic scale, the trouble is this one undermines a key, long time sole, selling point!

Viper_7

I'm curious about how this affects owners.

As there is now a general recall, and admission there is a fault with the accelerator design and a fault with the braking system. surely if one drives these vehicles, then one is knowingly driving a defective vehicle?
What if another accident occurs? Would the drive be liable for using the vehicle knowing about the problem?
The issue is not a case of 'IF' but a case of when.

Agree though toyota have been dragged over the coals for this.
Volvo had a similar issue with their ETM ( electronic throttle management)
There have been numerous incidents of this failing and leaving the throttle open. As it's not a physical mechanism but a electronic switch one is stuffed!
Even though this was a common fault amongst the S60's there was no general recall.... why?!

The other half had a Yaris... and I've had the problem of the mat holding the throttle down. Just dismissed it at the time and replace them with better fitting mats as I thought the design was poor. Sure the main issue here is with the mechanism rather than the mat, but the standard mats are also part of the recall issue.

Agree though, these recalls only occur once the US start jumping up and down. The rest of the worlds voices are largely ignored!

Lemonade_Pockets

Recalls cost money, MFR's don't do them unless they have to.

The US is historically the biggest market (china has now come wading in though), if the US government start making a hulabaloo then thats the when MFR's start listening. Lets face it they are more than ever going to do that now they own a large stake in a US MFR.

petrolhead69

my 1982 hilux failed it`s mot on corrosion and I`m disgusted toyota sold someone else before me a rusty accident waiting to happen. can I claim compensation?
joking aside it`s inexcusable that there isn`t a brake override on the electronic throttle like there is on a lot of european cars. its just a software thing and involves no parts so why couldn`t they just have programmed the ecm to disregard drivers wish (throttle input) when the brake lights are lit. simples.

Kurtis_Blue

petrolhead69 wrote: »

joking aside it`s inexcusable that there isn`t a brake override on the electronic throttle like there is on a lot of european cars. its just a software thing and involves no parts so why couldn`t they just have programmed the ecm to disregard drivers wish (throttle input) when the brake lights are lit. simples.

Because there are very good reasons to use the throttle when on the brakes.

Heel 'n' Toe

Anihilator

Could anyone confirm the number of accidents or incidents related to these recalls in the UK - then express it as a percentage of sales.

There is nothing wrong with the cars at all and its a case of nanny state applies. Toyota are simply doing minor adjustments to cover there !!!!!! from the plentiful supply of bottom feeder lawyers who will get the local scum with a 10 year old Yaris to sue when they drunkenly crash it into a ditch and blame the recall issue.

Inactive

American politics:(, strange that Ford / GM hardly get a mention about their recalls.

d77_2

Kurtis_Blue wrote: »

Because there are very good reasons to use the throttle when on the brakes.

Heel 'n' Toe

A Prius driver using the Heel 'n' Toe technique. :rotfl:

I know Toyota may be going back into rally, but I can't quite see it in that piece of s***

catflea

d77 wrote: »

A Prius driver using the Heel 'n' Toe technique. :rotfl:

You just made my day :T

Hintza

Inactive wrote: »

American politics:(, strange that Ford / GM hardly get a mention about their recalls.

Or is this just xenophbia and protectionism?