Weezl's phase 1- recipe testing and frugalisation- come one, come all!

weezl74

a big and very warmest of welcomes to lorietta and floxxie

thank you for your thoughts, you are saying things which supports our decision to prioritise bob and shirley and planner 1 at this point! How timely. I will coment more on the things you've suggested.

Good news for all who have been wondering just where the hecky-thump we're getting to/have got to with planner 1:

Lesley and I had a great 'online meeting' last night with spreadsheets and evvvvrifing:cool:;)

I'm happy with stock levels, minimum healthy requirements and so on. We may need to drop one of the recipes from month 1 bob and shirl, the baked bean curry (apologies if anyone was hugely looking forward to that (and it's ensuing gaseous explosions-bob will now not be able to run the central heating with his methane emissions ) but I know you're all going to love its replacements

So we have a little lunchtime finalisation to do, and then I think ariarnia, frankie and other lovely guinea pigs yet to be recruited can give it a whirl.


(ooooooh ooooh, let's call the new thread- 'Giving it a whirl with Shirl!')

To that end, please can anyone who has tried the lunchtime pate (the one with the liver) the tangy bean pate and the pumpkin seed butter (arty could you please promote these recipes into your month 1 part of your excellent list? cheers chick )

Please let me know what portion size spread over 2 pieces of toast you had/feel is adequate.

artybear

Sorry that was completely my fault. I was just being nosey really however we can have all the off topic conversations when we meet up! (i Hope that happens still)

Im off to work in a min so will do the index later if thats ok?

artybearxxx

ariarnia

lorietta wrote: »

3- Access to shops. Not all branches of the same shop will stock every product. Not everyone has every shop within walking distance. I know this has probably been done to death but it bears repeating. Also, some people may be able to negotiate cheep food- eg fruit of a market stall. Also, carrying shopping is an issue if you don't have a car.

As a non-driver this is a point I agree with when it comes to not shopping around. If I can order this list from one place, online, at the start of the month and then just top up when needed, otherwise the nearest supermarket is a Tesco 2 miles walk away or a butcher and baker 1 mile away but no green grocer or place to buy odd things (like mung beans) other than an expensive and nasty Spar.

aless02

agreed on all the recent points. The political debate is interesting, but I think it's getting wayyyy beyond what this project was originally about. I do honestly suspect that planner 3 and the proposed planner 4 are rather pointless and a lot of work that will get used by a very tiny portion of those overall using any of the planners. In a way, the project has run away from us and I think it would better with a narrower focus on JUST the bare-bones your-average-Briton Bob & Shirley, with a secondary nod to vegetarians in planner 2 (sorry that sounds patronising, but I mean that vegetarianism is quite popular whereas veganism and things like eating agave nectar as opposed to sugar aren't as much). I just think we're getting too caught up in the finer points of the diets of a very few, rather than the diet and needs/wants of your average Joe (or in this case, Bob)!

weezl74

g'morning aless

I have a couple more questions for ya!

The paul merrett bread, have you baked it without loaf pans before? a 3 loaf batch I mean, just hand shaped into a rounded loaf shape, slashed and then baked?

And if so can you say what the results were in terms of amounts of usable slices?

My guess is that it leaves quite a lot of pieces that are quite teeny at each end which might lead to wastage for shirl...

I'm tempted to suggest it as a method if not for shirl.

Thanks

weezl74

and susan, when on next can you say something about the research you've done on saturated fats? I'm at the moment keeping Bob and shirl's intake as a max of 10% of their daily intake expressed in calorie terms. How does that square up with what you've read?

Thanks in advance! If it helps, oats are consumed every day on planner 1 which I think ups the amount of sat fat that is acceptable and still healthy.

TIA

ariarnia

aless02 wrote: »

agreed on all the recent points. The political debate is interesting, but I think it's getting wayyyy beyond what this project was originally about. I do honestly suspect that planner 3 and the proposed planner 4 are rather pointless and a lot of work that will get used by a very tiny portion of those overall using any of the planners. In a way, the project has run away from us and I think it would better with a narrower focus on JUST the bare-bones your-average-Briton Bob & Shirley, with a secondary nod to vegetarians in planner 2 (sorry that sounds patronising, but I mean that vegetarianism is quite popular whereas veganism and things like eating agave nectar as opposed to sugar aren't as much). I just think we're getting too caught up in the finer points of the diets of a very few, rather than the diet and needs/wants of your average Joe (or in this case, Bob)!

I think that's why originally planner 2 and 3 weren't/aren't veg/vegan so much as no battery eggs and +1 fresh fruit (sounds like a d&d item) as they came out high as non-negotiable in the polls.

ariarnia

weezl74 wrote: »

The paul merrett bread, have you baked it without loaf pans before? a 3 loaf batch I mean, just hand shaped into a rounded loaf shape, slashed and then baked?

And if so can you say what the results were in terms of amounts of usable slices?

My guess is that it leaves quite a lot of pieces that are quite teeny at each end which might lead to wastage for shirl...

I'm tempted to suggest it as a method if not for shirl.

Thanks

I know I don't know a lot about bread, but rather than round, wouldn't bloomer style be automatically less wastage?

weezl74

ariarnia wrote: »

I know I don't know a lot about bread, but rather than round, wouldn't bloomer style be automatically less wastage?

yes sorry, that is what I was picturing I just couldn't get my fingers and brain to work out the word! Bloomers that's it, do we get too much wastage if they're bloomers.

Thanks ariarnia

our spar shops here are pretty ropey aren't they sometimes if owned by a forward thinking asian family like our nice local one, they do have the advantage of having really good bargain big bags of spices, chick peas, lentils etc...

In_Search_Of_Me

oo goodness me! Lots of comments since I peeked in last night!
Firstly weezl how are my two gorgeous boys? Tell Kester that his blankie is coming on lovely and autie ISOM is so chuffed with it she may pee her pants! Tell Ferg that I will do him one in different shapes (hexagon) so its as delicious but different! Do wonder if I should gives kesters to ferg and then give fergs to kester...
sorry back ot...an someone please clarify that post 1 is the one where I look for what needs testing still?
I think consensus is stick to plan 1 for now and away from too much politics (have to say I tend to read less when it gets all stressy) ...will feel a relief for me at least. I do find it quite "anxius making" as my good friend would say when we steer to far away from the point of the plan. At the end of the day we are helping bob and shirl to get through a tough patch and we need to try do that before we save the world! Off to sew yummy squares tog!